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  • LightKnow
    LightKnow Posts: 305 Forumite
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    masonic said:
    There's no issue with fundslibrary.co.uk's certificate chain or protocol support so the problem will be with your ISP, router, or device.
    If was then nothing would worked 

    I tested older version of browser that worked and once update it wouldnt let me in, my understanding is if the certificate does not complie with say safri minimum policy it flags it as not secure 

    I might run couple more tests to double make sure it not my device 
  • masonic
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    edited 14 March at 9:22PM
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    There's no issue with fundslibrary.co.uk's certificate chain or protocol support so the problem will be with your ISP, router, or device.
    If was then nothing would worked 

    I tested older version of browser that worked and once update it wouldnt let me in, my understanding is if the certificate does not complie with say safri minimum policy it flags it as not secure 

    I might run couple more tests to double make sure it not my device 
    I've personally inspected it and I can assure you there is nothing wrong with it. It is also coming up as A+ on SSL Labs. One possibility is that your ISP (or you) have installed a device or software that is performing SSL inspection on your internet traffic, and this is running an interception proxy that serves a different SSL certificate so that the contents of your "secure" connection can be monitored. If this is faulty, then it could result in the problems you are experiencing. Another is simply that your browser does not have the SSL.com root certificate in its trust store.
  • LightKnow
    LightKnow Posts: 305 Forumite
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    masonic said:
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    There's no issue with fundslibrary.co.uk's certificate chain or protocol support so the problem will be with your ISP, router, or device.
    If was then nothing would worked 

    I tested older version of browser that worked and once update it wouldnt let me in, my understanding is if the certificate does not complie with say safri minimum policy it flags it as not secure 

    I might run couple more tests to double make sure it not my device 
    I've personally inspected it and I can assure you there is nothing wrong with it. It is also coming up as A+ on SSL Labs. One possibility is that your ISP (or you) have installed a device or software that is performing SSL inspection on your internet traffic, and this is running an interception proxy that serves a different SSL certificate so that the contents of your "secure" connection can be monitored. If this is faulty, then it could result in the problems you are experiencing. Another is simply that your browser does not have the SSL.com root certificate in its trust store.
    Sorry , are you saying my ISP has installed something on my mobile? Or on the router ? 

    The way you worded it, sounds like ISP or someone is watching or monitoring Me ?

    So what would you do or should I check to resolve this ?
  • masonic
    masonic Posts: 27,181 Forumite
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    edited 14 March at 10:04PM
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    There's no issue with fundslibrary.co.uk's certificate chain or protocol support so the problem will be with your ISP, router, or device.
    If was then nothing would worked 

    I tested older version of browser that worked and once update it wouldnt let me in, my understanding is if the certificate does not complie with say safri minimum policy it flags it as not secure 

    I might run couple more tests to double make sure it not my device 
    I've personally inspected it and I can assure you there is nothing wrong with it. It is also coming up as A+ on SSL Labs. One possibility is that your ISP (or you) have installed a device or software that is performing SSL inspection on your internet traffic, and this is running an interception proxy that serves a different SSL certificate so that the contents of your "secure" connection can be monitored. If this is faulty, then it could result in the problems you are experiencing. Another is simply that your browser does not have the SSL.com root certificate in its trust store.
    Sorry , are you saying my ISP has installed something on my mobile? Or on the router ? 

    The way you worded it, sounds like ISP or someone is watching or monitoring Me ?

    So what would you do or should I check to resolve this ?
    Interception proxies are not usually used by ISPs, but they are very common in corporate environments. They are not necessarily used nefariously, but they are the only way security software/hardware is able to scan secure webpages. You can easily check this by comparing the details I see with the ones you see...
    Certificate chain:
    Validity:

    Certificate fingerprints:
    If these details match, then there is no interception and the problem will be a trust issue with that intermediate or root certificate towards the right of the chain. There is no genuine reason why these should not be trusted by your browser.
  • LightKnow
    LightKnow Posts: 305 Forumite
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    masonic said:
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    LightKnow said:
    masonic said:
    There's no issue with fundslibrary.co.uk's certificate chain or protocol support so the problem will be with your ISP, router, or device.
    If was then nothing would worked 

    I tested older version of browser that worked and once update it wouldnt let me in, my understanding is if the certificate does not complie with say safri minimum policy it flags it as not secure 

    I might run couple more tests to double make sure it not my device 
    I've personally inspected it and I can assure you there is nothing wrong with it. It is also coming up as A+ on SSL Labs. One possibility is that your ISP (or you) have installed a device or software that is performing SSL inspection on your internet traffic, and this is running an interception proxy that serves a different SSL certificate so that the contents of your "secure" connection can be monitored. If this is faulty, then it could result in the problems you are experiencing. Another is simply that your browser does not have the SSL.com root certificate in its trust store.
    Sorry , are you saying my ISP has installed something on my mobile? Or on the router ? 

    The way you worded it, sounds like ISP or someone is watching or monitoring Me ?

    So what would you do or should I check to resolve this ?
    Interception proxies are not usually used by ISPs, but they are very common in corporate environments. They are not necessarily used nefariously, but they are the only way security software/hardware is able to scan secure webpages. You can easily check this by comparing the details I see with the ones you see...
    Certificate chain:
    Validity:

    Certificate fingerprints:
    If these details match, then there is no interception and the problem will be a trust issue with that intermediate or root certificate towards the right of the chain. There is no genuine reason why these should not be trusted by your browser.
    Ok that looks right 

    Btw if my software version is outdated on phone, you reckon that impact it ? 

    It weird so checked lol no browser on phone will let me view site , I told few but other devices are ok 
  • masonic
    masonic Posts: 27,181 Forumite
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    edited 14 March at 10:45PM
    LightKnow said:
    Ok that looks right 

    Btw if my software version is outdated on phone, you reckon that impact it ? 

    It weird so checked lol no browser on phone will let me view site , I told few but other devices are ok 
    If this is an iPhone, then most browsers will check SSL certificates against Apple's certificate store. iOS should be getting regular updates of new root certificates. Firefox is an exception as it uses its own store, so that might be worth a try and if it works would point to iOS missing the relevant certificate.
    The one really odd result is the older browser version working.
  • LightKnow
    LightKnow Posts: 305 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    masonic said:
    LightKnow said:
    Ok that looks right 

    Btw if my software version is outdated on phone, you reckon that impact it ? 

    It weird so checked lol no browser on phone will let me view site , I told few but other devices are ok 
    If this is an iPhone, then most browsers will check SSL certificates against Apple's certificate store. iOS should be getting regular updates of new root certificates. Firefox is an exception as it uses its own store, so that might be worth a try and if it works would point to iOS missing the relevant certificate.
    The one really odd result is the older browser version working.
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