Newbie help please - PCN for overnight stay at Ashton Moss Metrolink

Bullies_Beware2

Just to update this thread. TfGM who outsource the management of the Metrolink franchise own the Metrolink Network freehold where it is off street. The Metrolink lines of route are largely former railway routes publicly owned by British Railways and were vested in the publicly owned Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive in the late 1980s following parliamentary approval in 1988. The first Metrolink lines opened in 1992 and further lines were taken in and opened since such as the Oldham Rochdale line. Accordingly those lines of route, stations and all former station car parks were and remain in public ownership at all relevant times up to  the present  day and are therefore POFA exempt no matter how TfGM, Metrolink  and Anch Security Services Ltd may wriggle.  Metrolink refuse to discuss the matter and will slam the phone down on you if you dare to advise them of the real legal position and direct you illegally and contrary to the real legal context to Ocean Parking - which isn't even a company -merely a trading name of Anchor Security Services Ltd. I was employed by British Rail Property Board and have a clear and complete understanding of property ownership terms and facts - unlike, it seems - the current employees and legal advisors to TfGM and Metrolink who have no business wilfully and deliberately misleading the public.

The Ashton line is an exception to this and is a largely on street route except for the section from the Snipe to Ikea in Ashton which is off street reserved track and it and the Ashton Moss Car Park are GMPTE (TfGM) freehold. This makes these areas publicly owned and POFA exempt. For this reason DVLA should not have supplied keeper information to Anchor Security Services Ltd or their trading arm Ocean Parking. Any PCN issued using such information will therefore be defective and invalid at law. I would therefore assume the correct course of action would be not to interact with Ocean arising at this location, thereby accepting that there is merit in their allegations but to ignore and let them waste their time on a futile fools errand which will eventually founder on the rocks of legal non compliance - anyone disgree?? 

Robt350c

Hi,

I've just received a parking charge notice from Ocean Parking of £100, for not being parked 'wholly within a bay' at Ladywell Metrolink park and ride car park. This was on the end of a row with with no other parking space next to it and car more or less on the line of the bay.

I'd like to appeal this as it's frankly ridiculous and purely a money making exercise.

Should I just put in a basic appeal first and then when rejected by Ocean go into more detail with the second appeal? For the first appeal I was just going to provide pictures from google satellite view showing it's an end space. 

Also, the pictures provided on the letter don't clearly show the infringement and the letter suggests I can view all the pictures on their website but I can't find a way to do that.

Appreciate any help on this, would it be exempt as for the reasons described in the post above?

Thanks in advance!

Gr1pr

Please start your own thread fir bespoke targeted advice,  as required by the rules here, on person, one topic , one thread 

You can provide a link to this advice thread if you want to,  for Metrolink background information 

Thank you