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Respond to the DVLA with the following:
Subject: Step 2 Complaint – Request for ICA Referral (APCOA / Railway Byelaws Misuse)
Dear [Mrs _____],
Thank you for your Step 2 response dated [insert date], regarding the release of my keeper data to APCOA Parking (UK) Ltd.
Regrettably, your reply once again fails to engage with the substance of my complaint. The issue is not whether APCOA had “reasonable cause” to request data — it is the unlawful use of that data following disclosure. APCOA is not authorised to issue Penalty Notices under Railway Byelaw 14, nor can it prosecute under Byelaw 24(1). The DVLA’s continued release of keeper data in support of these practices is a serious breach of its responsibilities as Data Controller.
If the DVLA were fulfilling its oversight obligations properly, it would have investigated this matter by requesting to see the contract between APCOA and the landowner — the Train Operating Company (TOC). Had this been done, it would have been immediately apparent that APCOA lacks the authority to issue Penalty Notices under railway byelaws. Instead, they are misusing DVLA-supplied keeper data to issue fake penalty notices, falsely implying criminal liability, and then attempting to recover these amounts through civil action. This is a clear abuse of process and a misuse of personal data.
It is a disgrace that this practice is allowed to continue under the DVLA’s watch, and the BPA’s complicity only highlights the systemic failure of regulation and accountability. The DVLA cannot abdicate responsibility simply because an ATA is involved — the legal and ethical duty to ensure lawful use of data remains with the DVLA.
Your response also fails to provide the necessary information about referral to the Independent Complaints Assessor (ICA), as required under the Department for Transport’s complaints procedure.
I therefore expect this complaint to be formally referred to the ICA without delay, and request confirmation once this has been actioned.
Yours sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
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LoneStarState saidWhat is the actual accreditation process? Has anyone ever found out? Presumably would be appropriate for an FOI request?
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ata_contracts_with_dvla_for_ipc
The requirement for a second stage appeals service independent of private parking operators forms part of the DVLA requirement for accreditation of trade associations. The DVLA ensures that both appeals services meet this standard. So it says in the MHCLG consultation document.1 -
The DVLA ensures that both appeals services meet this standard. So it says in the MHCLG consultation document.
The DVLA standers are now at the lowsest level now given the sheer amount of parking scams2 -
The requirement for a second stage appeals service independent of private parking operators forms part of the DVLA requirement for accreditation of trade associations.How do they reconcile that quote with the fact that Hurley is the head of both the IPC and the IAS and has issued a document pre stating an appeal rejection rate in excess of 95%?
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James_Poisson said:The requirement for a second stage appeals service independent of private parking operators forms part of the DVLA requirement for accreditation of trade associations.How do they reconcile that quote with the fact that Hurley is the head of both the IPC and the IAS and has issued a document pre stating an appeal rejection rate in excess of 95%?
On the balance of probabilities, nothing about the operation is independent or impartial, regardless of the number of times it is dishonestly stated in PCNs or by Bryn Holloway in annual reports.2 -
LoneStarState said:James_Poisson said:The requirement for a second stage appeals service independent of private parking operators forms part of the DVLA requirement for accreditation of trade associations.How do they reconcile that quote with the fact that Hurley is the head of both the IPC and the IAS and has issued a document pre stating an appeal rejection rate in excess of 95%?
On the balance of probabilities, nothing about the operation is independent or impartial, regardless of the number of times it is dishonestly stated in PCNs or by Bryn Holloway in annual reports.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street2 -
doubledotcom said:Respond to the DVLA with the following:
Subject: Step 2 Complaint – Request for ICA Referral (APCOA / Railway Byelaws Misuse)
Dear [Mrs _____],
Thank you for your Step 2 response dated [insert date], regarding the release of my keeper data to APCOA Parking (UK) Ltd.
Regrettably, your reply once again fails to engage with the substance of my complaint. The issue is not whether APCOA had “reasonable cause” to request data — it is the unlawful use of that data following disclosure. APCOA is not authorised to issue Penalty Notices under Railway Byelaw 14, nor can it prosecute under Byelaw 24(1). The DVLA’s continued release of keeper data in support of these practices is a serious breach of its responsibilities as Data Controller.
If the DVLA were fulfilling its oversight obligations properly, it would have investigated this matter by requesting to see the contract between APCOA and the landowner — the Train Operating Company (TOC). Had this been done, it would have been immediately apparent that APCOA lacks the authority to issue Penalty Notices under railway byelaws. Instead, they are misusing DVLA-supplied keeper data to issue fake penalty notices, falsely implying criminal liability, and then attempting to recover these amounts through civil action. This is a clear abuse of process and a misuse of personal data.
It is a disgrace that this practice is allowed to continue under the DVLA’s watch, and the BPA’s complicity only highlights the systemic failure of regulation and accountability. The DVLA cannot abdicate responsibility simply because an ATA is involved — the legal and ethical duty to ensure lawful use of data remains with the DVLA.
Your response also fails to provide the necessary information about referral to the Independent Complaints Assessor (ICA), as required under the Department for Transport’s complaints procedure.
I therefore expect this complaint to be formally referred to the ICA without delay, and request confirmation once this has been actioned.
Yours sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
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Umkomaas said:There was some serious rumblings 4 years ago by a firm of solicitors with links to American Attorneys - albeit related to DPA/GDPR breaches. High expectations for a while, but eventually turned out to be a damp squibb. DVLA seem a hard nut to crack.
Presumably after further legal advice they scaled back to more bona fide cases where reasonable cause was never there (PCNs issued to lease holders with overriding primacy etc). Not sure of the outcome.
I guess this approach would be more that the DVLA is knowingly allowing the IPC to be accredited when it does not (remotely) operate a competent independent appeals service and does not meet the requirement of being fair and impartial. IPC operators knowing the IAS is a joke perpetuates increased ticketing that increases revenue for the DVLA, the IAS/IPC and of course WILL Hurley while acting as a gateway to debt recovery and the additional add-ons that bring.
Anyways, I will cease derailing this thread for the OP.0 -
The DVLA’s complaint procedure serves one critical function: to establish a documented trail that can later be disclosed via Freedom of Information requests. In the last reporting year, the DVLA received just over 600 complaints concerning data release and KADOE breaches. That figure is disgracefully low given the scale of data sharing (well over 4 million data requests from the unregulated private parking industry alone) and the systemic misuse of keeper information.
Unless this issue is persistently raised, it will never be formally acknowledged that the DVLA is failing in its statutory duties, misapplying GDPR principles, and enabling a commercial ecosystem that profits from unlawful data access. Their refusal to hold data recipients accountable—despite being the data controller—is not just negligent, it’s complicit.
The only way to expose this institutional failure is through volume: repeated, documented complaints that force scrutiny. Silence enables abuse. Pressure compels reform.
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I have recieved a response from DVLA, they are passing it over to ICA.Dear ____Further to your email of 28 July 2025 your case will now be prepared for the IndependentComplaints Assessor (ICA). This will be forwarded to them within fifteen working days fromthe date we received the request. The ICA will usually acknowledge receipt of these paperswithin five working days of receipt. The ICA will contact you separately when reviewing yourcase.The DVLA and where appropriate the Department for Transport (DfT) and the ICA will useyour personal information for the purposes of handling your complaint, producinganonymised reports and seeking an improvement to services.If you have any further questions, please email me at ICArequests@dvla.gov.uk.Further information about how each DfT body looks after personal information can be foundin the Department’s information charter (available on the DfT website).Yours sincerelySent unsigned by emailMrs ____DVLA Complaints & ICA Referral TeamFind out about DVLA’s online services.Visit: www.gov.uk/dvla2
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