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Claim received for PCN -DCB Legal / Met parking

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  • fannofler
    fannofler Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Based on above, should I just send my defence and hope for the best as the deadline to send my defence is tomorrow 4pm. Thanks
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 8,421 Forumite
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    edited 10 February at 10:56PM
    Only the named defendant can defend the claim,  regardless of who was driving,  you can't just take over 

    You are assisting the defendant,  everything must be done in her name,  her login etc

    Its not your defence,  you are a stranger to the legal action 

    The defendant should acknowledge it 

    The defendant emails her defence 
  • KeithP
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    edited 10 February at 10:56PM
    You've blotted it out, but I assume that Defence Summary screen still shows your wife's name as the Defendant.
    Suggest that your wife files a Defence as soon as possible.
  • fannofler
    fannofler Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Gr1pr said:
    Only the named defendant can defend the claim,  regardless of who was driving,  you can't just take over 

    You are assisting the defendant,  everything must be done in her name,  her login etc

    Its not your defence,  you are a stranger to the legal action 

    The defendant should acknowledge it 

    The defendant emails her defence 
    I did use her login  but entered my name (stupidly ) while doing the acknowledgement. However on the MCOL its still showing her as defendant. I will get the defence email send from her email today and see what happens. thanks
  • fannofler
    fannofler Posts: 14 Forumite
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    KeithP said:
    You've blotted it out, but I assume that Defence Summary screen still shows your wife's name as the Defendant.
    Suggest that your wife files a Defence as soon as possible.
    I am using the template suggested, below are the paragraphs 2 and 3 - any comments on this will be appreciated please. 

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper. The Defendant was not the driver of the vehicle in question on the day of alleged PCN.

    3. The Vehicle was parked at local ASDA store car park for shopping purposes. The vehicle was parked in an electric bay but the electric car charger of the bay in question was inoperative on the day, so this did not impact any electric cars who would have needed charging while parked. Additionally, there were plenty of other available electric bays in the car park. 


  • Gr1pr
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    Check the date in the POC,  is it correct   ? Usually its incorrect , see the other recent cases 

    In which case make 3 into 3.1 , then add the numbered rebuttal for 3 , slotted in
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 11 February at 3:39PM
    fannofler said:
    KeithP said:
    You've blotted it out, but I assume that Defence Summary screen still shows your wife's name as the Defendant.
    Suggest that your wife files a Defence as soon as possible.
    I am using the template suggested, below are the paragraphs 2 and 3 - any comments on this will be appreciated please. 

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper. The Defendant was not the driver of the vehicle in question on the day of alleged PCN.

    3. The Vehicle was parked at local ASDA store car park for shopping purposes. The vehicle was parked in an electric bay but the electric car charger of the bay in question was inoperative on the day, so this did not impact any electric cars who would have needed charging while parked. Additionally, there were plenty of other available electric bays in the car park. 


    I hope she hasn't submitted that admission as para 3.  Why didn't you just copy the standard para 3 seen in all DCB Legal defences for months?  It's in every one.
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  • abz_anony
    abz_anony Posts: 33 Forumite
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      Why didn't you just copy the standard para 3 sen in all DCB Legal defences for months?  It's in every one.
    Would be grateful if you could send a link please to the latest standard paragraph 3 please as I need to include it my defence.
    Thanks
  • fannofler
    fannofler Posts: 14 Forumite
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    fannofler said:
    KeithP said:
    You've blotted it out, but I assume that Defence Summary screen still shows your wife's name as the Defendant.
    Suggest that your wife files a Defence as soon as possible.
    I am using the template suggested, below are the paragraphs 2 and 3 - any comments on this will be appreciated please. 

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper. The Defendant was not the driver of the vehicle in question on the day of alleged PCN.

    3. The Vehicle was parked at local ASDA store car park for shopping purposes. The vehicle was parked in an electric bay but the electric car charger of the bay in question was inoperative on the day, so this did not impact any electric cars who would have needed charging while parked. Additionally, there were plenty of other available electric bays in the car park. 


    I hope she hasn't submitted that admission as para 3.  Why didn't you just copy the standard para 3 sen in all DCB Legal defences for months?  It's in every one.
    Thanks Coupon-mad, luckily we have not sent the email yet, about to but I have changed the working using some of the older threads here. 

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper, but liability is denied.

    3. Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied. Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant does not know who was driving the vehicle on an unremarkable day many years ago. The Defendant has no knowledge of the parking contravention and has no record of receiving any notice of parking charges or letters from the claimant. 
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 11 February at 11:22AM
    Paragraph 2 should have an ending , which it did have previously 

    Paragraph  3, you removed the date,  so copy it properly and only change the copied date to the one in your POC,  you are making it harder than it is 

    Do not use older threads,  only threads from this year 
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