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  • The Estate agents are trying to flex their muscles and push the sale through and threatening to remove the property from the market if I don't proceed. I replied that either I purchase the house with legal access or I buy the land for a reasonable amount. I am awaiting their next move.
  • Statex2_2 said:
    The Estate agents are trying to flex their muscles and push the sale through and threatening to remove the property from the market if I don't proceed. I replied that either I purchase the house with legal access or I buy the land for a reasonable amount. I am awaiting their next move.
    Well done. Stay strong and keep repeating that same message to the estate agent. 
  • FlorayG
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    edited 20 December 2024 at 8:27AM
    Statex2_2 said:
    The Estate agents are trying to flex their muscles and push the sale through and threatening to remove the property from the market if I don't proceed. I replied that either I purchase the house with legal access or I buy the land for a reasonable amount. I am awaiting their next move.
    This is becoming quite a saga; as a person not actually involved, I'm quite invested in finding out the final outcome  ;)
    Surely the EA can't remove the property from the market only the vendor can do that?
  • HHarry
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    FlorayG said:
    Statex2_2 said:
    The Estate agents are trying to flex their muscles and push the sale through and threatening to remove the property from the market if I don't proceed. I replied that either I purchase the house with legal access or I buy the land for a reasonable amount. I am awaiting their next move.
    This is becoming quite a saga; as a person not actually involved, I'm quite invested in finding out the final outcome  ;)
    Surely the EA can't remove the property from the market only the vendor can do that?
    And what does that achieve?  You can’t complete the purchase, no-one else can make an offer, and the Vendor is unable to buy their new house.

    It’s just emotional manipulation, stick to your guns. (Although I’d be seriously onsidering whether I wanted the ransom landowners as neighbours)
  • Section62
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    Nebulous2 said:
    Do you need it all? How much of it would you need to secure an access route? 

    The owner could sell you a portion and continue tilting at windmills for the rest of it. 
    Not sure it is tilting at windmills.  If we are really going to be building 50 trillion new homes a year then scraps of land which might be considered 'grey' are likely candidates for at least some of them.  Rural councils are not going to meet their new homes targets by rigidly sticking to such trivialities as development envelopes.

    As someone who has been involved in the planning process and trying to get development focussed in areas where transport and other facilities are good the likely direction of travel on planning policy is concerning.... but not quite as concerned as I would be owning a property with iffy access rights and a parcel of land next door which is potentially ripe for development of multiple new homes.
  • GDB2222
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    Section62 said:
    Nebulous2 said:
    Do you need it all? How much of it would you need to secure an access route? 

    The owner could sell you a portion and continue tilting at windmills for the rest of it. 
    Not sure it is tilting at windmills.  If we are really going to be building 50 trillion new homes a year then scraps of land which might be considered 'grey' are likely candidates for at least some of them.  Rural councils are not going to meet their new homes targets by rigidly sticking to such trivialities as development envelopes.

    As someone who has been involved in the planning process and trying to get development focussed in areas where transport and other facilities are good the likely direction of travel on planning policy is concerning.... but not quite as concerned as I would be owning a property with iffy access rights and a parcel of land next door which is potentially ripe for development of multiple new homes.
    Two acres is possibly enough for 30 houses, and I think the OP is attracted to the house he is buying because it is quiet and in a backwater. Equally, I can see why the cousin doesn’t want to sell the land at agricultural prices, when it might conceivably be worth several million for development. 

    Even formalising a right of way across the land might reduce its development potential. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Grizebeck
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    OP you have done the right thing 
    Obviously trying to pull the wool over your eyes
  • FlorayG said:
    Statex2_2 said:
    The Estate agents are trying to flex their muscles and push the sale through and threatening to remove the property from the market if I don't proceed. I replied that either I purchase the house with legal access or I buy the land for a reasonable amount. I am awaiting their next move.
    This is becoming quite a saga; as a person not actually involved, I'm quite invested in finding out the final outcome  ;)
    Surely the EA can't remove the property from the market only the vendor can do that?
    I believe that the estate agent is pushing the vendor to issue an ultimatum reading between the lines. At present we are in a stalemate situation. We will see what happens after the Christmas Holidays.
  • GDB2222 said:
    Section62 said:
    Nebulous2 said:
    Do you need it all? How much of it would you need to secure an access route? 

    The owner could sell you a portion and continue tilting at windmills for the rest of it. 
    Not sure it is tilting at windmills.  If we are really going to be building 50 trillion new homes a year then scraps of land which might be considered 'grey' are likely candidates for at least some of them.  Rural councils are not going to meet their new homes targets by rigidly sticking to such trivialities as development envelopes.

    As someone who has been involved in the planning process and trying to get development focussed in areas where transport and other facilities are good the likely direction of travel on planning policy is concerning.... but not quite as concerned as I would be owning a property with iffy access rights and a parcel of land next door which is potentially ripe for development of multiple new homes.
    Two acres is possibly enough for 30 houses, and I think the OP is attracted to the house he is buying because it is quiet and in a backwater. Equally, I can see why the cousin doesn’t want to sell the land at agricultural prices, when it might conceivably be worth several million for development. 

    Even formalising a right of way across the land might reduce its development potential. 
    That is very true but it is very remote and no real bus service. There are 2 plots of land for sale in the village of similar size. Both unsold fpr over 9 months and both within the building envelope.
  • ThisIsWeird
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    You are hopefully pushing for the purchase or inclusion of more than a RoW, but enough land to form an isolating envelop around the house, because you'll want to be able to keep your distance from that landowner. 
    It doesn't have to be large, but just enough to shield you by the addition of trees or whatever.
    Ideally along the drive to the road too.
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