Landlocked property

FlorayG

OP I would be leaving this in the hands of the seller now with a clear expectation of 'no land purchase, no house purchase". It looks like there's nothing more you can do. As for your son pushing to complete; does he have any idea how stupid that would be?

GDB2222

Statex2_2 said:

MysteryMe said:

ManuelG said:

How has this thread made 2025 without the OP walking away?

Quite,

It is understandable that due to past disappointments the OP may have hung on longer than I suspect most people would but seriously how many red flags does someone need? Obvious lack of transparency from the vendor as to why they have never secured access rights, pressure applied to the OP to push through a quick sale, neighbours who are less than cordial and apparently not willing to negotiate access unless it involves a significant sum of money, one of the neighbours appearing in the local papers and not for a good reason and the increased possibility of anti social behaviour at their boundary line as a result, the neighbours land potentially changing in use. I mean blimey, just get it go.

Thanks for the replies that is how I feel, if up to me solely I would have walked away already but as we are buying it with our son he is pushing us to continue with the purchase. Previously we have had a few properties that have fallen through,(gazumped,in a flood plane, bad surveys etc )  My son has said that he will not consider any future properties this is the last chance, and my wife wants to be near the grandchildren and as we do not have very nice neighboursetc  I am under pressure from all sides. 

The land owners have now reduced the price but it just makes me wonder if this is a ploy to get us to buy the house and then pull out of the land deal.I have made it clear to the sellers of the house beforehand that I would have to purchase the land before the house if only an hour before therefore ensuring the access rights. The people who own the land have said they would require exchange  and completion on the same day.

The estate agent keeps pushing for me to have a survey but I want everything else sorted first before wasting any further cash on solicitors and surveys. We have lost enough cash on previous abortive purchases.

Another caveat is that the owner of the land has let a local farmer use the land for haymaking, no rent just a handshake agreement, does that cause problems. Could he claim a right to use it in future. Agricultural tenancies are complex and sometimes by letting someone use a field it can cause problems.One for the conveyancer.

So many issues with this property although it is just what we want I still believe that we should walk away.

There’s every reason to make the purchase of the land and the house simultaneous. This is something your solicitor can arrange. It’s obviously easier if the sellers are both using the same solicitor.  

Have you reached a point where the combined price of the house and land is acceptable to you?

Section62

Statex2_2 said:

MysteryMe said:

ManuelG said:

How has this thread made 2025 without the OP walking away?

Quite,

It is understandable that due to past disappointments the OP may have hung on longer than I suspect most people would but seriously how many red flags does someone need? Obvious lack of transparency from the vendor as to why they have never secured access rights, pressure applied to the OP to push through a quick sale, neighbours who are less than cordial and apparently not willing to negotiate access unless it involves a significant sum of money, one of the neighbours appearing in the local papers and not for a good reason and the increased possibility of anti social behaviour at their boundary line as a result, the neighbours land potentially changing in use. I mean blimey, just get it go.

Thanks for the replies that is how I feel, if up to me solely I would have walked away already but as we are buying it with our son he is pushing us to continue with the purchase. Previously we have had a few properties that have fallen through,(gazumped,in a flood plane, bad surveys etc )  My son has said that he will not consider any future properties this is the last chance, and my wife wants to be near the grandchildren and as we do not have very nice neighboursetc  I am under pressure from all sides. 

Perhaps more one for the 'Marriage, Relationships & Families' board, but I feel the bit in bold is a big red flag.  Personally I would not be willing to own a home shared with someone who issues that kind of ultimatum, especially in relation to buying a property which so obviously has some fundamental problems.

Is your wife reading the replies on this thread?  If not she needs to - both she and your son have got to understand that buying a (rural) property without proper vehicular access can be disastrous.

Don't feel pressured or bullied into proceeding with the property until the issues have been sorted.  Yes, your current neighbours might not be very nice, but this has every indication of being a frying-pan-into-fire situation.

Herzlos

Statex2_2 said:

My son has said that he will not consider any future properties this is the last chance, and my wife wants to be near the grandchildren and as we do not have very nice neighboursetc  I am under pressure from all sides.

At some point you need to tell him it's going to be a disaster and wash your hands of it. Buying this house could cripple both of you financially forever.

I'd be stalling on this one and looking for alternatives to present to them, unless the seller comes to you with a suitable arrangement for the land.

That the land is being used by a farmer definitely complicates things; is the landowner getting anything in exchange for it that they don't want to lose out from?

HHarry

Statex2_2 said:

MysteryMe said:

ManuelG said:

How has this thread made 2025 without the OP walking away?

Quite,

It is understandable that due to past disappointments the OP may have hung on longer than I suspect most people would but seriously how many red flags does someone need? Obvious lack of transparency from the vendor as to why they have never secured access rights, pressure applied to the OP to push through a quick sale, neighbours who are less than cordial and apparently not willing to negotiate access unless it involves a significant sum of money, one of the neighbours appearing in the local papers and not for a good reason and the increased possibility of anti social behaviour at their boundary line as a result, the neighbours land potentially changing in use. I mean blimey, just get it go.

Thanks for the replies that is how I feel, if up to me solely I would have walked away already but as we are buying it with our son he is pushing us to continue with the purchase. Previously we have had a few properties that have fallen through,(gazumped,in a flood plane, bad surveys etc )  My son has said that he will not consider any future properties this is the last chance, and my wife wants to be near the grandchildren and as we do not have very nice neighboursetc  I am under pressure from all sides. 

The land owners have now reduced the price but it just makes me wonder if this is a ploy to get us to buy the house and then pull out of the land deal.I have made it clear to the sellers of the house beforehand that I would have to purchase the land before the house if only an hour before therefore ensuring the access rights. The people who own the land have said they would require exchange  and completion on the same day.

The estate agent keeps pushing for me to have a survey but I want everything else sorted first before wasting any further cash on solicitors and surveys. We have lost enough cash on previous abortive purchases.

Another caveat is that the owner of the land has let a local farmer use the land for haymaking, no rent just a handshake agreement, does that cause problems. Could he claim a right to use it in future. Agricultural tenancies are complex and sometimes by letting someone use a field it can cause problems.One for the conveyancer.

So many issues with this property although it is just what we want I still believe that we should walk away.

 You don’t have very nice neighbours currently, and you want to move into a house with neighbours who also don’t sound lovely?

FlorayG

HHarry said:

Statex2_2 said:

MysteryMe said:

ManuelG said:

How has this thread made 2025 without the OP walking away?

Quite,

It is understandable that due to past disappointments the OP may have hung on longer than I suspect most people would but seriously how many red flags does someone need? Obvious lack of transparency from the vendor as to why they have never secured access rights, pressure applied to the OP to push through a quick sale, neighbours who are less than cordial and apparently not willing to negotiate access unless it involves a significant sum of money, one of the neighbours appearing in the local papers and not for a good reason and the increased possibility of anti social behaviour at their boundary line as a result, the neighbours land potentially changing in use. I mean blimey, just get it go.

Thanks for the replies that is how I feel, if up to me solely I would have walked away already but as we are buying it with our son he is pushing us to continue with the purchase. Previously we have had a few properties that have fallen through,(gazumped,in a flood plane, bad surveys etc )  My son has said that he will not consider any future properties this is the last chance, and my wife wants to be near the grandchildren and as we do not have very nice neighboursetc  I am under pressure from all sides. 

The land owners have now reduced the price but it just makes me wonder if this is a ploy to get us to buy the house and then pull out of the land deal.I have made it clear to the sellers of the house beforehand that I would have to purchase the land before the house if only an hour before therefore ensuring the access rights. The people who own the land have said they would require exchange  and completion on the same day.

The estate agent keeps pushing for me to have a survey but I want everything else sorted first before wasting any further cash on solicitors and surveys. We have lost enough cash on previous abortive purchases.

Another caveat is that the owner of the land has let a local farmer use the land for haymaking, no rent just a handshake agreement, does that cause problems. Could he claim a right to use it in future. Agricultural tenancies are complex and sometimes by letting someone use a field it can cause problems.One for the conveyancer.

So many issues with this property although it is just what we want I still believe that we should walk away.

 You don’t have very nice neighbours currently, and you want to move into a house with neighbours who also don’t sound lovely?

Only if OP can buy the land from the 'new'neighbours, at which point they will be neighbours no longer

Herzlos

The neighbour will retain their house and be more or less neighbours going forward, though if they sell enough land they may be far enough away to not be a concern.

FlorayG

Herzlos said:

The neighbour will retain their house and be more or less neighbours going forward, though if they sell enough land they may be far enough away to not be a concern.

The owners of the land don't live there, don't have a house there

Section62

FlorayG said:

Herzlos said:

The neighbour will retain their house and be more or less neighbours going forward, though if they sell enough land they may be far enough away to not be a concern.

The owners of the land don't live there, don't have a house there

.......yet.

Herzlos

FlorayG said:

Herzlos said:

The neighbour will retain their house and be more or less neighbours going forward, though if they sell enough land they may be far enough away to not be a concern.

The owners of the land don't live there, don't have a house there

Ah, for some reason I thought the cousin also had a house on the plot but I don't see any mention.


Could we get a map or diagram of the house and land? Is it literally just a house in a field with an access road?