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TonyBee
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edited 18 November 2024 at 12:55AM in Deaths, funerals & probate
Thank you all for your replies and input. Everything is now in the hands of my solicitor who explains i have a powerful case.
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  • JoeCrystal
    JoeCrystal Posts: 3,317 Forumite
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    Frankly, your first port of call would have to be a solicitor. The DWP and the Post Office will not release any information, and quite rightly so. Have you tried https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/?
  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,280 Forumite
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    edited 13 November 2024 at 8:31AM
    depends what you are hoping to find - probable that anything that was in the account went to pay for clearing the house and the funeral and other expenses.

    The account can be emptied / close by anyone who administering the estate - most likely they would just have needed to the death cert. 

    Pension will have stopped probably on registration of the death when the "tell us once" service is used 

    there may be no solicitor involved
  • anmarj
    anmarj Posts: 1,826 Forumite
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    post office accounts were closed down a few years ago, if a bank account was not provided, then the alternative was payments collected via vouchers/paymecard/text with voucher code - https://www.gov.uk/payment-exception-service. this would have stopped when department informed of death.  Post office account would need to be closed via Post Office itself if not done at time.


  • LHW99
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    There are rules regarding the estate of a person without a will (if any is left )

    You would first need to know what estate was left, and where it is; then apply for letters of administration if there is any significant amount.
    You mention you found out when visiting grandparents - do they have information about where / when he died? Were they given as his "next of kin"? If not, who registered the death, and why were they entitled to?
    Did he have any form of partner (official or not) - they could have either inherited absolutely, or possibly have a claim if they are dependent?

    You may well need the help of a professional, which would cost money, and may not be worth it if the remaining estate is very small.
  • Silvertabby
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    If your dad didn't own the house, and his only income was the State pension, then it's likely that all of his assets would have been used to pay for his funeral and/or house clearance, leaving nothing for any beneficiaries.

    My sympathies on your loss.  Regardless of the circumstances of your estrangement, he was still your father.
  • MEM62
    MEM62 Posts: 5,293 Forumite
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    Sorry for your loss.
    TonyBee said:
    It appears by law my sisters and i are valid next of kin

    Next of Kin is not any kind of legal status.  

    TonyBee said:
    I have discovered that there was no will
    Then the rules of intestacy will apply.  Who administered his estate?    

    What are you looking to achieve here?  
  • Marcon
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    TonyBee said:
    My father died last year which i only recently discovered his grave when visiting my grandparents. You may ask why i have only just discovered his passing, where was i. The answer is extremely personal and there are valued reasons for the lack of contact. 
    There is no reason at all why you should give any information, personal or otherwise - everyone is entitled to their privacy. Happily the reasons are wholly irrelevant to answering your question, so the helpful responses above are valid regardless - although I'm sorry to learn of how you found out about your father's death.

    I can only echo a question asked already: what are you hoping to achieve?


    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • silvercar
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    edited 14 November 2024 at 5:24AM
    Sorry for your loss.

    Given this is more than just a pension issue, I am going to move this to the death, funerals & probate board.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,280 Forumite
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    Oh dear - clearly far more to this than meets the eye and is more to do with  family breakdown over the years. Sometimes people feel that if you haven't been around during life, then you are unlikely to be around after death - father's sister probably had a lot of work to do at the time - it can be relentless.

    TBH can't expect these people to be chasing round trying to find you and your siblings, it isn't their job - you find one person who is handling the whole thing and that is it.
    Used to be a churchwarden and there often used to be "discussions" about stones etc and it was far better when everyone agreed before we applied for the diocesan faculty etc to get it done (if in any particular case we needed to) . 
  • MEM62
    MEM62 Posts: 5,293 Forumite
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    Oh dear - clearly far more to this than meets the eye and is more to do with  family breakdown over the years. Sometimes people feel that if you haven't been around during life, then you are unlikely to be around after death - father's sister probably had a lot of work to do at the time - it can be relentless.

    This is a very valid point.  With respect to the OP and the acknowledgement that we do not know all the facts, I would say that, if they were not part of his life then it is difficult for them to be part of his passing.  
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