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Economy 7 meter timings off

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  • Scot_39
    Scot_39 Posts: 3,470 Forumite
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    Until a meter reader / inspector comes in - now once in a blue moon - rather than the old 2 years standard admittedly unless on PSR - and looks at the meters themselves.

    Also in many cases - for high or low off peak users - the difference in the register readings would be a pretty good clue for suppliers.

    There was a post the other day where someone suddenly had 9000 units added / subtracted - the sort of thing that might happen if got into a register peak / off peak order swap.

    If it was costing you money - you would want it fixed - it is equally fair that if was costing the company money - they should be made aware and given the oppertunity to fix.


  • N_Pars
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    edited 26 October 2024 at 4:56PM
    I am hoping edf will be able to notice the difference in useage today, I used the tumble dryer at 1 this afternoon and the meter said it was 3:54am.
    I imagine they could pick up that it is unusual usage for us. 
  • EDF won't necessarily notice any difference at all. It's NOT a Smart Pre-pay meter, so they won't pick up on this "unusual" usage.

    I'm not very familiar with all the ins and outs of prepayment meters, so I don't know what in formation is transmitted back to the supplier via the key next time you top up.
    Meter readings may be, but whether date and time of day usage is, I don't know.

    As you've already said, wait and see what happens when the clocks change.
    If the timings remain unchanged then you need to contact EDF again and make it clear you are getting your off-peak rate during the day because of the fault. (I wouldn't elaborate of how it may have happened, just report it.) Just saying your storage heater(s) are coming on in the day is not going to "ring any bells", the agent may think you are just using more peak time electricity and probably won't care, don't bother mentioning the storage heaters.

    As a separate point, your "electrician" is clearly a sloppy worker IMHO, as those meter tails going up to the consumer unit should have been tidily moved together, conscientious ones may even use cable ties to keep them tidy.

    Out of curiosity, what is that current monitoring device on one lot of the meter tails for? (Assuming that's what it is!).
  • N_Pars
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    Update this morning -
    Checked the time on the meter this morning at similar time as the other morning. At 6:51am meter says 22:47 so the clock has gone 1hr forward and not back 🤔 
  • QrizB
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    N_Pars said:
    Update this morning -
    Checked the time on the meter this morning at similar time as the other morning. At 6:51am meter says 22:47 so the clock has gone 1hr forward and not back 🤔 
    Fundamentally, then, you need to decide whether you can live with it as it is, or whether you agitate with EDF to get the meter changed.

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  • bob2302
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    Scot_39 said:
    Some things dont like being switched on / off as age.

    The desktop PC I am typing this is so old - the motherboard battery - that keeps the time record going has been replaced - and I have a 12 yr old linux laptop I have to type in the date / time every time it's powered up - very rarely these days.

    FWIW, if it can connect to the internet, you could just configure it to set itself. 
  • SAC2334
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    MWT said:
    Is this an old meter with a clock fitted (usually close to the meter) ?
    If so it is possible that your electrician pulled the main fuse to allow him to safely work on the new consumer unit tails to the meter if there was no isolation switch fitted.
    With the older clocks, cutting the power will often result in the clock stopping until the power is resumed leaving it on the wrong time...


    I used to find that many or most of the Eco 7  meters governed by an old 24 hour timer clock were so far out of the correct timings that the cheap 7 hours could be coming on at any time in the 24 hours .People waiting to have their electric showers past midnignt when they assumed they were on cheap rate were paying top whack for years . No suppliers gave them warnings about unreliable timings and only Scottish Power wanted to know if the timings were out more than 2 hours . Even the digital meter timings could be out by as much as 4 hours .
    These old 24 hr timer clocks do have an internal spring which will power the device in the event of power cuts but eventually this spring runs out of power after a few years .
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