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  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,513 Forumite
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    mmmmikey said:
    What's blindingly obvious to many of us isn't obvious to everyone.


    A lot of the time it's because they've never stopped to think about it. These adverts are aimed at them and as much about awareness as anything else - i.e. encouraging people to stop and think.
    What's blindingly obvious to many of us is these people that it is aimed it are not taking any notice of them... It's just another smart meter add, & I do not want a smart meter for Insert own reason....

    As the saying goes  “You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink” 

    Personally I fill the kettle up to boil, as the majority of the time. It will be boiled again in a couple of hours & the water is still quite warm.
    Same as when making a pot of tea. I make a full pot & then nuke in microwave to warm the next mug up later on. Rather than having to boil kettle & waste a tea bag 🤣
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  • kassy64
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    edited 18 October 2024 at 12:35PM
    I haven't got a smart meter yet, but Ive read they use about £2 of energy per year themselves, which needs to be made up somehow before you are in credit. British gas were offering £25 for installing a smart meter but my electricity meter is more than 5m from my property (across a private drive) so appears they cant or wont install anyway. Its going to take a lot of cups of tea (made from over filled kettles) to make up the £2.
  • tim_p
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    Or you could make tea in a pot, with loose tea, like a civilised person. A tea cosy costs nothing to run.
    The only tea worth drinking!  In a cup too, none of this mug stuff. Has to be a money saving angle to it too. One measure of tea makes at least 5 decent cups of proper tea in this house whereas there must be people who’d be using 5 teabags for the same. 
  • Gerry1
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    edited 18 October 2024 at 12:38PM
    kassy64 said:
    I haven't got a smart meter yet, but I've read they use about £2 of energy per year themselves
    Nope.  Its supply is upstream of the metering element so it won't go on your bill.
  • Netexporter
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    The tiny amount of electricity the meter self-consumes is accounted for in the general losses in the transmission system. Conventional meters also consume a certain amount of electricity, otherwise we'd have invented the perpetual motion machine.
  • born_again
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    edited 18 October 2024 at 12:41PM
    tim_p said:
    Or you could make tea in a pot, with loose tea, like a civilised person. A tea cosy costs nothing to run.
    The only tea worth drinking!  In a cup too, none of this mug stuff. Has to be a money saving angle to it too. One measure of tea makes at least 5 decent cups of proper tea in this house whereas there must be people who’d be using 5 teabags for the same. 
    Na. 1 tea bag (cheap Sainsburys ones as well, tastes great) in pot, I drink black & do not like hot strong tea... Mug lasts longer than cup. I get at least 3 mugs per pot made.
    MSE saving at it's best 🤣

    But each to their own.
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  • Ildhund
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    Looking for a statistic saying just how many times the average UK kettle is boiled, I came across this scholarly article authored by (presumably) a canny Scot and his associates: Understanding usage patterns of electric kettle and energy saving potential. Sadly, it's ten years old, so I can only hope that if the research were repeated today, its conclusions would be less depressing. Two outstanding stats from the article:
    • The 2012 annual electricity consumption of the kettle in the UK was 4489GWh, which is roughly 34% of the total consumption attributed to cooking. [source]  
    • The most wasteful of the households in the study could have saved 92kWh per year simply by being less wasteful.
    My kettle has a handy little gauge showing just how much water is in it, but only to the nearest 0.5l. However, equipped with a 1l thermos jug and a 350ml mug, I can use the gauge to measure exactly 1l, boil the water and make 1l of tea in the jug, and then enjoy three mugs of scalding hot tea over the next couple of hours. No overboiling there. 

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    This jug has doubled in price since I bought mine a couple of years ago  :(

    For a single mug, or a pot noodle, say, I fill a graduated 350ml jug with just the volume needed from my Brita filter jug and use that.




    And my last kettle-boiling-energy-saving tip: once the bubbles start rising from the bottom of the kettle, the water is at 100° and any electricity consumed after that point is simply converting water at 100° to vapour, to no advantage that I can see. In fact, if you learn to detect the point at which the bubbles start rising - e.g. by the sound emitted - you can in fact turn the kettle off a few seconds before that point is reached. The heating element will continue to heat the water, because it takes time for it to cool down, just like a ring on an electric hob.  

    Peanuts, you might say. But added all together for all the kettle-using households in Britain, over a whole year, cutting wastage when using the kettle could make a significant hole in the 4.5TWh they allegedly consume each year.
    I'm not being lazy ...
    I'm just in energy-saving mode.

  • EssexHebridean
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    edited 18 October 2024 at 1:24PM
    mmmmikey said:
    What's blindingly obvious to many of us isn't obvious to everyone.


    A lot of the time it's because they've never stopped to think about it. These adverts are aimed at them and as much about awareness as anything else - i.e. encouraging people to stop and think.
    What's blindingly obvious to many of us is these people that it is aimed it are not taking any notice of them... It's just another smart meter add, & I do not want a smart meter for Insert own reason....

    As the saying goes  “You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink” 

    Personally I fill the kettle up to boil, as the majority of the time. It will be boiled again in a couple of hours & the water is still quite warm.
    Same as when making a pot of tea. I make a full pot & then nuke in microwave to warm the next mug up later on. Rather than having to boil kettle & waste a tea bag 🤣
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  • Gerry1
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    edited 18 October 2024 at 1:36PM
    Rather than having to boil kettle & waste a tea bag...
    Ildhund said:
    For a single mug, or a pot noodle...
    Aaarrrrgghhhhh....!!!
    Whatever next, glugging a Cup-A-Soup as you stir the Smash while waiting for the Bri Nylon shirt to Drip Dry...😈
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