Awkward Gas Situation - Advice please!

ThisIsWeird

Photo, please, Wobag?

WobagUK

OK, sorry it took a while.  I can confirm that the manual for the fire states that the 'final connection' must be a compression fitting, and the below is the best photo I could take.



Maybe the vagueness of 'final connection' being interpreted as either the singular connection to the fire, or the last link from the wall to the fire, which here, being twisty has soldered joints in it.

Thoughts?

jefaz07

WobagUK said:

OK, sorry it took a while.  I can confirm that the manual for the fire states that the 'final connection' must be a compression fitting, and the below is the best photo I could take.



Maybe the vagueness of 'final connection' being interpreted as either the singular connection to the fire, or the last link from the wall to the fire, which here, being twisty has soldered joints in it.

Thoughts?

For me, the final connection is the final connection, I wouldn’t say it’s vague. In this instance the restrictor elbow type connection. And that is compression. I would fit it like that too. If I had to be critical I’d have wrapped, or used wrapped copper pipe. 

ThisIsWeird

WobagUK said:

OK, sorry it took a while.  I can confirm that the manual for the fire states that the 'final connection' must be a compression fitting, and the below is the best photo I could take.



Maybe the vagueness of 'final connection' being interpreted as either the singular connection to the fire, or the last link from the wall to the fire, which here, being twisty has soldered joints in it. Thoughts?

Thanks for the clear photo - that final connect is compression, and is part of the actual fire. So, all good there.

Soldered connections on the gas supply pipe is the norm.

I wonder if the second guy had 'concerns' about the pipe - and soldered fittings - being located under the fire, but whether there's an alternative to this - coming from the front! - I have no idea.

When you think about it, tho', it barely gets warm under there. If it's going to reach anywhere near the ~200 degrees required to melt a solder joint, your house will already be in flames.

You'll need a GasSafe with the required additional 'open gas fire' quals to confirm, but I am as sure as a layman can be that there's nothing amiss in that installation.

Have you sent that pic to the gas fire manufacturer?

jefaz07

ThisIsWeird said:

WobagUK said:

OK, sorry it took a while.  I can confirm that the manual for the fire states that the 'final connection' must be a compression fitting, and the below is the best photo I could take.



Maybe the vagueness of 'final connection' being interpreted as either the singular connection to the fire, or the last link from the wall to the fire, which here, being twisty has soldered joints in it. Thoughts?

Thanks for the clear photo - that final connect is compression, and is part of the actual fire. So, all good there.

Soldered connections on the gas supply pipe is the norm.

I wonder if the second guy had 'concerns' about the pipe - and soldered fittings - being located under the fire, but whether there's an alternative to this - coming from the front! - I have no idea.

When you think about it, tho', it barely gets warm under there. If it's going to reach anywhere near the ~200 degrees required to melt a solder joint, your house will already be in flames.

You'll need a GasSafe with the required additional 'open gas fire' quals to confirm, but I am as sure as a layman can be that there's nothing amiss in that installation.

Have you sent that pic to the gas fire manufacturer?

Copper pipe under a fire is standard. Normally have a cut out in the fire box for the gas pipe to enter underneath. HTR1 is the qualification needed, it’s not broken down into categories of fires although you are still assessed on the different types. 

If I came across this on my rounds I wouldn’t look twice at the gas pipe, rather check ventilation and flue flow.