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ParkingEye - Parking Charge Notice - Ilford Retail Park

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  • Felics
    Felics Posts: 102 Forumite
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    edited 3 October 2024 at 11:23AM
    That's just the second letter. Irrelevant.
    Added above and here:

    Sorry I thought they were the same letter.

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/ysUqA65.jpeg[/img]
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/ozQUDXQ.jpeg[/img]
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,056 Forumite
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    Thanks for the new scans of the actual NtK. PE do not invoke PoFA to pass liability from the driver to the registered keeper. So use the blue text initial appeal template from the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, and add to it the following paragraph. 

    As your Parking Charge Notice does not comply with the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Schedule 4), you are, in law, unable to hold the registered keeper of the vehicle liable for the parking charge.  I suggest therefore that you contact the driver. As there is no legal requirement placed on the registered keeper to identify the driver, I will not be doing so.

    PE should cancel. If they don't, then POPLA will do so at the next appeal stage. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • LDast
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    One of those "hens teeth" of a PE NtK.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,056 Forumite
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    LDast said:
    One of those "hens teeth" of a PE NtK.
    Absolutely. A not-oft-seen-of-late 'Golden Ticket'!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,748 Forumite
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    But is that the back of the first letter, definitely?
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  • Felics
    Felics Posts: 102 Forumite
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    Umkomaas said:
    Thanks for the new scans of the actual NtK. PE do not invoke PoFA to pass liability from the driver to the registered keeper. So use the blue text initial appeal template from the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, and add to it the following paragraph. 

    As your Parking Charge Notice does not comply with the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Schedule 4), you are, in law, unable to hold the registered keeper of the vehicle liable for the parking charge.  I suggest therefore that you contact the driver. As there is no legal requirement placed on the registered keeper to identify the driver, I will not be doing so.

    PE should cancel. If they don't, then POPLA will do so at the next appeal stage. 
    Thanks

    As I've already initially appealed and subsequently received a response:

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/XjxaAQY.jpeg[/img]
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/zjRm6or.jpeg[/img]

    Do i just re-appeal or wait for their next response?

    Many thanks
  • Gr1pr
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    Phishing for the driver details, ignore and wait for the next response 
  • Felics
    Felics Posts: 102 Forumite
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    edited 29 October 2024 at 6:49PM
    Update:

    Received the following via email (6 images):

    https://imgur.com/a/ozTo9IB.

    I assume I am to appeal to POPLA with the standard templates?
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 11,450 Forumite
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    Pretty much, but online by uploading your Popla appeal choosing OTHER,  no paperwork or form filling, typical categories are 

    No landowner authority 
    Poor and inadequate signage 
    POFA failures 
    No transfer of liability from driver to keeper 
    No keeper liability 
    Any BPA CoP failures 

    Etc
  • Coupon-mad
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    Felics said:
    Update:

    Received the following via email (6 images):

    https://imgur.com/a/ozTo9IB.

    I assume I am to appeal to POPLA with the standard templates?
    I would never try POPLA until landowner complaint has been completely exhausted.
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