Parking on a white line?

flyer

The keeper has received this letter today. It seems to imply a previous letter has been sent but the keeper has never received one. It would seem from the picture that they are invoicing for being on the white line. Can they do that?(Image removed by Forum Team)

Gr1pr

Yes they can do that, its currently an unregulated industry, the signs will tell the driver the terms and conditions for parking correctly, park wholly within the bay, no parking over white lines, staying between them 

Coupon-mad

Yes but that answer sounds like the person should pay, which isn't what we advise. Don't want to see any newbie pay!

@flyer

As the NTK you didn't get was only issued on 2nd Sept you can of course still appeal it this weekend.  You can also log in to see the pictures online.  Use the template appeal and add that no PCN of NTK was ever issued and you will be complaining to the BPA that Premier Park has gone straight to a hybrid pseudo-reminder threat instead of the letters required in clause 24.4 of the Code of Practice.

The OP also needs to try Plan A next week but get the appeal in by tomorrow or Monday (day 28) then try PLAN A.

As seen in NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST (which we won't link because it's at the top of the forum).

flyer

Coupon-mad said:

Yes but that answer sounds like the person should pay,  @Gr1pr  which isn't what we advise.

Don't want to see any newbie pay!

@flyer

As the NTK you didn't get was only issued on 2nd Sept you can of course still appeal it this weekend.  You can also log in to see the pictures online.  Use the template appeal and add that no PCN of NTK was ever issued and you will be complaining to the BPA that Premier Park has gone straight to a hybrid pseudo-reminder threat instead of the letters required in clause 24.4 of the Code of Practice.

The OP also needs to try Plan A next week but get the appeal in by tomorrow or Monday (day 28) then try PLAN A.

As seen in NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST (which we won't link because it's at the top of the forum).

Sorry, where do I find the template appeal?

KeithP

flyer said:

It would seem from the picture that they are invoicing for being on the white line. Can they do that?

Would seem??
It is quite clear why you have been invoiced.
The second page states...

You now need to ask yourself why you didn't receive the original Notice to Keeper.
Are the keeper's address details on the vehicle's Registration Document(V5c) up to date, or perhaps more importantly, were they up to date in early September?

Gr1pr

At no time did I tell or infer that the OP should pay. ! Nobody should be looking for what isn't there

I believe in answering the question, telling it as it is , which I have always done throughout my life 

Had they mentioned paying I would advise them against it, but they didn't ask that particular question so I didn't advise anything .  I leave the inferring to parking companies and sc#m like the bottom feeding lawyers 

The question was can they invoice for a vehicle being on the white line, answer is yes, happens all the time 

Should I pay  ?  Is a completely different question, one that wasn't asked , so I decided to await further questions once the OP was aware of the answer to the original question 

Enlightenment comes to every newbie once they learn the nature of the beast , even those with over 2000 posts on MSE 

Coupon-mad

I know ...

...but leaving the way forward unsaid has (several times on this board - not from your posts, sometimes after mine) caused newbies to jump to the wrong conclusion that they are being told the PCN is valid. Then they go 'oh, so I have to pay it then...'

@flyer I signposted you to where the template appeal is.  Re-read my final paragraph. No link needed or given. We don't do that for Announcement threads but my signature explains how to navigate.

Gr1pr

In which case my reply would be 

No you don't have to pay it, unless a judge says so 

We can't be responsible for the foolish or naive assumptions that they make, we can only address their posts and try to stop spontaneous self combustion , but writing war and peace often doesn't help either 

Most newbies find the newbies thread difficult or laborious, we know that it has to be, many don't even read the announcements. They don't even read signatures 

Let me be quite clear, I or we don't believe in paying private parking companies , not after over a decade fighting them 

KeithP

It does seem strange though that the 'Final Chance Before Action' is addressed 'To Whom It May Concern'.
@flyer, are you, as an individual, the Registered Keeper or is a company involved?

Coupon-mad

Good spot!

Brie

Gr1pr said:

In which case my reply would be 

No you don't have to pay it, unless a judge says so 

We can't be responsible for the foolish or naive assumptions that they make, we can only address their posts and try to stop spontaneous self combustion , but writing war and peace often doesn't help either 

Most newbies find the newbies thread difficult or laborious, we know that it has to be, many don't even read the announcements. They don't even read signatures 

Let me be quite clear, I or we don't believe in paying private parking companies , not after over a decade fighting them 

This is why people coming on this site for help get flustered because people are not blatantly helpful.  Sometimes we need to state what is obvious to us even if it may not be obvious to others.