Communal drying green dog mess

user1977

The fact the deeds call it a drying green doesn't literally mean that it can only be used for drying clothes, there would need to be a more explicit restriction on use.

sunshine17

loubel said:

As above, you need to read your lease (I am assuming you are in England or Wales but some of your wordings suggest possibly this is not correct) to find out what the shared areas can and can't be used for. But it is completely reasonable for you not to want to have dog mess on these spaces so you are going to need to have a neighbourly chat with her to remind her that she needs to clean up after her dog immediately if it fouls the communal areas. Consider whether the drying area could be fenced off to prevent her dog from entering at all.

Scotland  loubel

KxMx

sunshine17 said:

tacpot12 said:

Is there anything to say that the communal area can't be used for any purpose? Is the drying green described as a drying green in the lease/deeds?

Does the lease prevent the keeping of pets? 

If there are no restrictions in the lease, you can't really enforce anything, so it comes down to negotiation.

You are quite reasonable in not wanting to have to walk through/around dog mess or even have to mow a lawn that has dog mess on it. So just keep up that you are being reasonable in asking her to pick up the solid matter. If there are no restrictions, you might have to accept that the grass is going to be killed by the dog urinating, but if it's a shared space, then you can't expect it to be kept exactly how you would keep it. 

No clearly states it is a communal drying green and all other areas. It clearly states in deeds drying green the fact is she's never used it in 6 years never stood on the grass never.cut the grass then all of a sudden she gets dog and they are trampling all over.grass and pee patches all over it now dog mess on the grass. Ive just been out and taken in my washing and put washing out and the grass is damp from the frost last night and stinks of musty pee. 

As a communal area rights are equal, length of time lived there/work done to it doesn't count for anything I'm afraid. 

I also live somewhere with a communal garden so I do understand your feelings, I would be unhappy about the dog toileting and would politely remind her she gave you a note stating it wouldn't happen, and now it is.

sunshine17

Thanks for the replies. It's not a garden it's a communal drying green. I'd love to sit out in it but I use it as what it's purposes for washing. Unfortunately even if we all used it as a communal garden I'd never get privacy to enjoy it, her mother's always sitting out in it and she doesn't even live here. I look out on a sunny day thinking wish I could sit there and enjoy the space but I don't because it's a drying green. I'm delighted she's got a puppy as she suffers with mental health issues but she assured us her puppy wouldn't be using the drying green for the toilet especially after it's 12 week injections but the grass now looks ruined and today with the frost melting it's stinking today. 

sunshine17

user1977 said:

The fact the deeds call it a drying green doesn't literally mean that it can only be used for drying clothes, there would need to be a more explicit restriction on use.

If it wasn't a drying green we'd be sitting in we've lived here 8 years longer than her. 

sunshine17

I've told before she wasn't bothered. 

KxMx

The length of time either of you have lived there is irrelevant.

You've chosen not to sit outside and just use it for washing, she and her guests have chosen otherwise. 
You need to accept it is a communal space, you can't have it exactly as you want all the time nor do you get to decide how your neighbour is/isn't to use it, sitting outside in a shared space is not being unreasonable. 

The dog toileting though is another matter, and I can understand your upset there, especially as your neighbour has gone back on her word. 

user1977

sunshine17 said:

user1977 said:

The fact the deeds call it a drying green doesn't literally mean that it can only be used for drying clothes, there would need to be a more explicit restriction on use.

If it wasn't a drying green we'd be sitting in we've lived here 8 years longer than her. 

You can sit there if you want, assuming you haven't found anything in the deeds saying you can't. Length of ownership/residence doesn't mean anything.

sunshine17

KxMx said:

You've chosen not to sit outside and just use it for washing, she and her guests have chosen otherwise. 
You need to accept it is a communal space, you can't have it exactly as you want all the time. 
The length of time either of you have lived there is irrelevant.

The dog toileting though is another matter, and I can understand your upset there, especially as your neighbour has gone back on her word. 

No we have respected her privacy by not sitting in it. We have never been unreasonable with her. We don't want to stop her from sitting out we just don't want the dog crapping on the grass so we can at least put our washing out. We are good neighbours to her like when she slams the gate we paid for and maintain and she breaks it we fix, or when a slate falls of the house which is 110 year old we fix it, or when she puts oil drums in garden to burn wood with her friends on the slabs outside her kitchen window , we clean our windows. Or when her mother leaves her post it notes on her deck chair that it's a jungle meaning the grass I rise above it. Or when we spend three days painting all the fence around the drying green so it doesn't rot she never offers to help is paint it or pay towards the paint to keep it nice. I could go on and on, about the comings and goings at all hours when we are up early for our work on the morning and being kept awake cause she having nookie with tom !!!!!! and Harriet. We are understanding people you know. 

MeteredOut

Have you reiterated the ask to her to stop the dog crapping/peeing on the grass? Most people would (should) regard that as a reasonable request.