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New zealand customs fine - advice

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  • jimi_man said:
    elsien said:
    Ignorance isn't a defence. The NZ guidance is quite clear about that. 
    I think other posters were suggesting that diminished responsibility may be grounds for an appeal ?

    I don’t think anyone has suggested that at all unless some posts have been hidden/deleted? As far as I am aware even the OP has accepted it. The main issue is whether what effect it’s likely to have if they carry on not paying it. 
    Indeed, diminshed responsibility is probably an exaggeration.

  • Okell
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    I'm one of those awkward people who think that non-UK nationals visiting the UK should pay up when they have lawful fines and other sanctions applied to them. 

    I also think the same principle applies to UK nationals (including me) visiting other countries.

    I don't see why the same principle shouldn't apply to the OP's parents.

    Unless they have recourse to another level of appeal their legal rights would have been exhausted when their appeal was rejected
  • baser999
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    jimi_man said:

    Personally, at around £180 or so it’s chicken feed,
    Others might say it's shallot of money.

    If you have a coat, could I suggest you go get it 😏
  • baser999
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    Would they have got away with it had they been Swedes? 
  • unforeseen
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    baser999 said:
    Would they have got away with it had they been Swedes? 
    Swedes, onions? No difference really, both are veg. 
  • lon_85
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    Thanks for your input everyone - just to clarify why they had the onions in the first place - they were staying in an apartment in the previous city and had to clear it out before vacating it, hence they had leftover food items.
  • Apologies for stating the obvious - why not ditch the offending onions in a rubbish bin or similar ?
  • la531983
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    edited 25 September 2024 at 8:02AM
    Apologies for stating the obvious - why not ditch the offending onions in a rubbish bin or similar ?
    Because they didnt realise they were there until they got to Customs?
    Also, airports are full of CCTV, they could have easily been spotted between the arrivals gate and the customs check on camera disposing of contraband, thats assuming there was even a bin to begin with, and also assuming they realised they were there, which they clearly didnt.

    I dont think the OP came here asking for advice on how to deal with his parents who clearly are struggling with forgetfulness, it will no doubt happen to many of us when we get older.
  • marcia_
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    la531983 said:
    Apologies for stating the obvious - why not ditch the offending onions in a rubbish bin or similar ?
    Because they didnt realise they were there until they got to Customs?
    Also, airports are full of CCTV, they could have easily been spotted between the arrivals gate and the customs check on camera disposing of contraband, thats assuming there was even a bin to begin with, and also assuming they realised they were there, which they clearly didnt.

    I dont think the OP came here asking for advice on how to deal with his parents who clearly are struggling with forgetfulness, it will no doubt happen to many of us when we get older.
     There are loads of signs and bins on the walk up to customs telling you to dispose of prohibited goods. 
  • la531983
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    edited 25 September 2024 at 8:23AM
    marcia_ said:
    la531983 said:
    Apologies for stating the obvious - why not ditch the offending onions in a rubbish bin or similar ?
    Because they didnt realise they were there until they got to Customs?
    Also, airports are full of CCTV, they could have easily been spotted between the arrivals gate and the customs check on camera disposing of contraband, thats assuming there was even a bin to begin with, and also assuming they realised they were there, which they clearly didnt.

    I dont think the OP came here asking for advice on how to deal with his parents who clearly are struggling with forgetfulness, it will no doubt happen to many of us when we get older.
     There are loads of signs and bins on the walk up to customs telling you to dispose of prohibited goods. 
    Fair enough, the very first line of my post still stands though.  I dont really see the point of raking over the coals of the ifs and the whys of the incident tbf.

    I went through security at an airport once and forgot I still had a can of deodorant in my carry on, I had it disposed of, people forget things, amazingly it happens.
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