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Universal credit fine charge no idea what it is.

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  • 8dayweek said:
    If it’s Court Fines it will show as “Fines” on your UC Statement and is generally limited to around 5% of your Standard Allowance (£19ish). Your Case Manager will be able to tell you which Court this originates from, so you can take it up with them (however Deductions from DWP Benefits are usually a “last resort” when other methods of recovery have been exhausted). 

    If it’s a Civil Penalty it will show as “Penalties” on your UC Statement and is generally a flat £50. This will normally have been added to an Overpayment when you have acted negligently (i.e. failed to report a change impacting entitlement promptly). This could relate to UC - in which case you should have a Letter in your Journal (UCD368 from memory) or it could be related to a prior Legacy Benefit. 

    If it’s a Fraud Penalty it will show as “Fraud Penalties” on your UC Statement. They can be quite high (£150ish) and will normally occur when you have committed Fraud but have accepted a Penalty etc instead of Prosecution. You should know about this, as you would have been interviewed by Fraud - potentially under caution - about this. It could relate to UC, or a prior Legacy Benefit. 

    In the case of it being a Penalty or Fraud Penalty, Debt Management should have the details of WHERE it originated from a “date period” it relates too. They won’t know specifically how it came about. If there is a “normal” Overpayment attached to the Penalty, they will be able to agree an affordable repayment rate moving forwards. If there is a “fraud” Overpayment related to the Fraud Penalty they MAY be able to agree an affordable repayment rate moving forwards, but SOME may have specific deduction rates attached to them (you would know if it had got this far). 
    I have recieved a letter from Tax credit of overpayment, I am assuming this relates to that, will find out next month as the over payment is £68 ish pounds
  • Does the Tax Credit letter include a Civil Penalty on top of the overpayment?

    Normally a Civil Penalty would only apply if you’ve failed to report a change of circumstances in a timely manner etc. (the wording is more specific than that - but that’s the gist of it). 
  • I have recieved a letter from Tax credit of overpayment, I am assuming this relates to that, will find out next month as the over payment is £68 ish pounds
    That should show as "Tax Credit recovery" on your UC statement
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • 8dayweek said:
    Does the Tax Credit letter include a Civil Penalty on top of the overpayment?

    Normally a Civil Penalty would only apply if you’ve failed to report a change of circumstances in a timely manner etc. (the wording is more specific than that - but that’s the gist of it). 

    Here is the letter thought I just show you
  • HillStreetBlues said:
    I have recieved a letter from Tax credit of overpayment, I am assuming this relates to that, will find out next month as the over payment is £68 ish pounds
    That should show as "Tax Credit recovery" on your UC statement
    I don't see any mention of tax credits on my statement 
  • HillStreetBlues
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    edited 12 September 2024 at 9:08PM

    HillStreetBlues said:
    I have recieved a letter from Tax credit of overpayment, I am assuming this relates to that, will find out next month as the over payment is £68 ish pounds
    That should show as "Tax Credit recovery" on your UC statement
    I don't see any mention of tax credits on my statement 
    I have a tax credit overpayment on my UC part of the monthly statement below.

    (the capital is incorrect as not updated it since I've moved to UC)
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • It doesn’t look like the Penalty is attached to your Tax Credit overpayment then - as the letter says £0.00 under Penalties, interest and other charges. 

    Are you able to log into Debt Management and see what’s held there?

  • HillStreetBlues said:
    I have recieved a letter from Tax credit of overpayment, I am assuming this relates to that, will find out next month as the over payment is £68 ish pounds
    That should show as "Tax Credit recovery" on your UC statement
    I don't see any mention of tax credits on my statement 
    I have a tax credit overpayment on my UC part of the monthly statement below.

    (the capital is incorrect as not updated it since I've moved to UC)
    Thanks mine says is different 
  • makavelianz
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    edited 13 September 2024 at 8:33AM
    8dayweek said:
    I will need to register on that one as can't log in with my UC login details, I did phone them they said wait a couple of weeks
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