looking for a cooker with a pin code facility?

chilswelluk

MattMattMattUK said:

It would not exist because no one has ever felt the need. If you think it exists then link to one to demonstrate that.

So why do washing machines exist with pin codes and a host of other electrical devices for the home?  I would have thought a pin code on a cooker is useful as a safety feature to prevent vulnerable adults and children using it unsupervised.  The child locks on cookers are not fit for purpose.  They would only defeat very small children.

chilswelluk

eddddy said:

As others say, the OP needs to explain the actual requirement. Depending on what it is, adding a locking cover for the cooker switch might be a solution.

I want to prevent others using the cooker.  That locking box is unsightly and inconvenient.  Having to keep a key and physically unlock something.  It would be better to just wire an app controlled MCB in at the consumer unit side.  But really all I want is a pin code feature, as most of the child locks are useless on cookers.  They would only stop very young children and not older children or vulnerable adults.

outtatune

Stopping an older child is a very different prospect from stopping a vulnerable adult.

Describe the problem you actually want to solve. Otherwise we're going to struggle to help you.

MattMattMattUK

chilswelluk said:

MattMattMattUK said:

It would not exist because no one has ever felt the need. If you think it exists then link to one to demonstrate that.

So why do washing machines exist with pin codes and a host of other electrical devices for the home?  I would have thought a pin code on a cooker is useful as a safety feature to prevent vulnerable adults and children using it unsupervised.  The child locks on cookers are not fit for purpose.  They would only defeat very small children.

If there were a demand for them then the market would fill it. Either there is no demand or the demand is so low that it is not viable.

Some other electrical items offer this, but it is very niche and far from universal and in many cases originate from the USA which started the trend of people having to be told their coffee was hot, or not to lick razors. The features were largely introduced as a marketing gimmick, the same way a huge amount of products are market to parents. 

chilswelluk

outtatune said:

Stopping an older child is a very different prospect from stopping a vulnerable adult.

Describe the problem you actually want to solve. Otherwise we're going to struggle to help you.

I want a cooker with a pin code to stop unauthroised persons using it.  Thats pretty self explanatory and the reason items have pin codes.  The same way you can have a pincode / password on a phone, computer, smart lock, electric car charger, thermostat, washing machine etc.  I really don't feel the need to expand further on this explanation. 

flaneurs_lobster

chilswelluk said:

  I really don't feel the need to expand further on this explanation. 

I think you'll find that respondents may have a similar attitude.

chilswelluk

flaneurs_lobster said:

chilswelluk said:

  I really don't feel the need to expand further on this explanation. 

I think you'll find that respondents may have a similar attitude.

Thats fine.  I just asked a simple question and if there is nothing on the market with a pin code, that's the reality.  If that's the case I will just wire a smart switch from the consumer unit which I can control with my phone and which will allow me to stop unauthorised access to the cooker.

mr_stripey

chilswelluk said:

outtatune said:

Stopping an older child is a very different prospect from stopping a vulnerable adult.

Describe the problem you actually want to solve. Otherwise we're going to struggle to help you.

I want a cooker with a pin code to stop unauthroised persons using it.  Thats pretty self explanatory and the reason items have pin codes.  The same way you can have a pincode / password on a phone, computer, smart lock, electric car charger, thermostat, washing machine etc.  I really don't feel the need to expand further on this explanation. 

that's fine - but it's a pretty niche requirement as most people don't have unauthorised persons roaming around their kitchen cooking meals - so therefore no demand in the market and not suprising that the solution you are looking for doesn't exist

chilswelluk

MattMattMattUK said:

If there were a demand for them then the market would fill it. Either there is no demand or the demand is so low that it is not viable.

Personally I would class a cooker just as hazardous as a washing machine.  If you can buy washing machines with a pin code facility, I would have thought it would be possible to buy a cooker with this feature.  Also what about thermostats - quite a few offer this on the market.  This was a big selling point for me when buying my thermostat. But if there is nothing on the market with a pin code, that's the reality.  If that's the case I will just wire a smart switch from the consumer unit which I can control with my phone and which will allow me to stop unauthorised access to the cooker.

MattMattMattUK

chilswelluk said:

MattMattMattUK said:

If there were a demand for them then the market would fill it. Either there is no demand or the demand is so low that it is not viable.

Personally I would class a cooker just as hazardous as a washing machine.  If you can buy washing machines with a pin code facility, 

They exist, but are rare, they are certainly not mass market, they seem slightly more common in America, but from what I can see hardly any mainstream manufacturers offer them there, Miele seem to offer one model, Bosch, Samsung, Siemens, AEG etc. do not offer any. 

chilswelluk said:
I would have thought it would be possible to buy a cooker with this feature.

Even less of a demand, otherwise it would have been met. 

chilswelluk said:
Also what about thermostats - quite a few offer this on the market.  This was a big selling point for me when buying my thermostat.

Some smart thermostats offer code access, non-smart ones were usually a legacy option from commercial spaces, where members of the public should not be able to change temperature, neither should employees in offices who refuse to leave a thermostat at a sensible temperature. It might be a big selling point for you, but I imagine in a domestic setting it is one of the least used features, even more so as most smart thermostats will just be set to a program and then left alone, which is kind of the point of them, that they are smart. 

chilswelluk said:
But if there is nothing on the market with a pin code, that's the reality.  If that's the case I will just wire a smart switch from the consumer unit which I can control with my phone and which will allow me to stop unauthorised access to the cooker.

If you mean something like a smart plug you will probably have a problem with that as most smart plugs would not be specified for that level of current draw over a sustained period. Regs also specify that an electric oven should be plugged into a dedicated socket, without adapters, extension leads etc. not with a smart plug. I suspect you will have difficulty finding something "smart" that you can wire directly into the circuit from the consumer unit.