Octopus refund.

matt_drummer

Spies said:

matt_drummer said:

Spies said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

 the surveyor said there wasn't anywhere suitable to put the pump. 

May I ask what the issue was with the pumps location?

The side return wasn't wide enough, the front window was too low and as we have double French windows at the back there was not enough wall space.  He looked at putting it further back into the garden but then said it would be in view of the top of the neighbour's French windows.

Meanwhile evnick on YouTube just had a Cosy 6 installed which is in full view of the street! 

So is my Daikin, there's an issue with that?

Just in terms of the OP not being allowed because the neighbour can see it, seems one rule for one...

I don't think so.

It will be due to the MCS noise calculations and the proximity to a habitable room.

CFELH

Scottish_Dorset said:

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

 the surveyor said there wasn't anywhere suitable to put the pump. 

May I ask what the issue was with the pumps location?

The side return wasn't wide enough, the front window was too low and as we have double French windows at the back there was not enough wall space.  He looked at putting it further back into the garden but then said it would be in view of the top of the neighbour's French windows.

I have a bungalow where one side is not quite 1 metre from the boundary fence between my neighbour. The other side is where the path is to my front door and requires wheelchair access.  The front of the property has two windows, between which is not quite enough wall space to have the ASHP, and on the rear are the two bedrooms. The only place it can go is along the wall on the path which blocks access to the front door. I do have a driveway to the side of that, but it is loose gravel and the wheelchair gets bogged down in the stones. I have a detached garage with a wall around 3 metres from my property and more than 15 metres either side of my neighbours. But they refuse to locate the pump in that location.

So, I have a detached bungalow with a detached garage and no where to site an ASHP. Net zero is going to be a challenge with the many terraced houses and / or LAs who are not being flexible. Add into that the siting of EV chargers in busy roads with off street parking and I think Ed Miliband is going to have his work cut out.

As no other option is being considered, my only choice is to replace my oil boiler and hope oil will still be available at a reasonable cost for the next five years at least.

matt_drummer

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

 the surveyor said there wasn't anywhere suitable to put the pump. 

May I ask what the issue was with the pumps location?

The side return wasn't wide enough, the front window was too low and as we have double French windows at the back there was not enough wall space.  He looked at putting it further back into the garden but then said it would be in view of the top of the neighbour's French windows.

I have a bungalow where one side is not quite 1 metre from the boundary fence between my neighbour. The other side is where the path is to my front door and requires wheelchair access.  The front of the property has two windows, between which is not quite enough wall space to have the ASHP, and on the rear are the two bedrooms. The only place it can go is along the wall on the path which blocks access to the front door. I do have a driveway to the side of that, but it is loose gravel and the wheelchair gets bogged down in the stones. I have a detached garage with a wall around 3 metres from my property and more than 15 metres either side of my neighbours. But they refuse to locate the pump in that location.

So, I have a detached bungalow with a detached garage and no where to site an ASHP. Net zero is going to be a challenge with the many terraced houses and / or LAs who are not being flexible. Add into that the siting of EV chargers in busy roads with off street parking and I think Ed Miliband is going to have his work cut out.

As no other option is being considered, my only choice is to replace my oil boiler and hope oil will still be available at a reasonable cost for the next five years at least.

Maybe concrete part of your gravel driveway to facilitate wheelchair access and the heat pump?

cannugec5

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

CFELH said:

Scottish_Dorset said:

 the surveyor said there wasn't anywhere suitable to put the pump. 

May I ask what the issue was with the pumps location?

The side return wasn't wide enough, the front window was too low and as we have double French windows at the back there was not enough wall space.  He looked at putting it further back into the garden but then said it would be in view of the top of the neighbour's French windows.

I have a bungalow where one side is not quite 1 metre from the boundary fence between my neighbour. The other side is where the path is to my front door and requires wheelchair access.  The front of the property has two windows, between which is not quite enough wall space to have the ASHP, and on the rear are the two bedrooms. The only place it can go is along the wall on the path which blocks access to the front door. I do have a driveway to the side of that, but it is loose gravel and the wheelchair gets bogged down in the stones. I have a detached garage with a wall around 3 metres from my property and more than 15 metres either side of my neighbours. But they refuse to locate the pump in that location.

So, I have a detached bungalow with a detached garage and no where to site an ASHP. Net zero is going to be a challenge with the many terraced houses and / or LAs who are not being flexible. Add into that the siting of EV chargers in busy roads with off street parking and I think Ed Miliband is going to have his work cut out.

As no other option is being considered, my only choice is to replace my oil boiler and hope oil will still be available at a reasonable cost for the next five years at least.

Does a bedroom wall preclude the installation of an ASHP? 

Ours is against ( with the required gap) our bedroom wall, without issue. 

FreeBear

A heat pump doesn't have to be placed parallel to a wall. As long as there is good airflow either side, the orientation shouldn't matter (open to being proved wrong).

matt_drummer

FreeBear said:

A heat pump doesn't have to be placed parallel to a wall. As long as there is good airflow either side, the orientation shouldn't matter (open to being proved wrong).

You are correct.

CFELH

cannugec5 said:

Does a bedroom wall preclude the installation of an ASHP? 

Ours is against ( with the required gap) our bedroom wall, without issue. 

I couldn't say. I don't understand the regulations myself. I've been guided by the surveyors. All I can find are statements such as 'It is recommended that heat pump is not located near a bedroom window, opening doors or within 1m of your boundary wall'.

Recommendations are not regulations, so I'm confused?

@matt_drummer

I only have enough width on the drive to access the garage behind the house.

The_Green_Hornet

CFELH said:

cannugec5 said:

Does a bedroom wall preclude the installation of an ASHP? 

Ours is against ( with the required gap) our bedroom wall, without issue. 

I couldn't say. I don't understand the regulations myself. I've been guided by the surveyors. All I can find are statements such as 'It is recommended that heat pump is not located near a bedroom window, opening doors or within 1m of your boundary wall'.

Recommendations are not regulations, so I'm confused?

@matt_drummer

I only have enough width on the drive to access the garage behind the house.

This should help your understanding.

Planning Permission: Air source heat pump - Heat pumps - Planning Portal

CFELH

The_Green_Hornet said:

CFELH said:

cannugec5 said:

Does a bedroom wall preclude the installation of an ASHP? 

Ours is against ( with the required gap) our bedroom wall, without issue. 

I couldn't say. I don't understand the regulations myself. I've been guided by the surveyors. All I can find are statements such as 'It is recommended that heat pump is not located near a bedroom window, opening doors or within 1m of your boundary wall'.

Recommendations are not regulations, so I'm confused?

@matt_drummer

I only have enough width on the drive to access the garage behind the house.

This should help your understanding.

Planning Permission: Air source heat pump - Heat pumps - Planning Portal

I believe they were considering R290 which requires a clearance of 3100mm along the bottom and 2100mm along the top. The only wall that would take that is my path to the front door which is north east facing and 1km of the North Sea. Even installed perpendicular to the wall, its no go. It would be around 30cm from the pavement or one end against the bedroom wall sticking out into the garden. The garage wall would be perfect, its south facing nothing against it and already has a separate 100amp supply. I've seen a few ASHP fitted a few metres from the house with the pipework insulated going into the house with no issues. So not sure why they won't take this approach. But hey-ho. 

matt_drummer

CFELH said:

The_Green_Hornet said:

CFELH said:

cannugec5 said:

Does a bedroom wall preclude the installation of an ASHP? 

Ours is against ( with the required gap) our bedroom wall, without issue. 

I couldn't say. I don't understand the regulations myself. I've been guided by the surveyors. All I can find are statements such as 'It is recommended that heat pump is not located near a bedroom window, opening doors or within 1m of your boundary wall'.

Recommendations are not regulations, so I'm confused?

@matt_drummer

I only have enough width on the drive to access the garage behind the house.

This should help your understanding.

Planning Permission: Air source heat pump - Heat pumps - Planning Portal

I believe they were considering R290 which requires a clearance of 3100mm along the bottom and 2100mm along the top. The only wall that would take that is my path to the front door which is north east facing and 1km of the North Sea. Even installed perpendicular to the wall, its no go. It would be around 30cm from the pavement or one end against the bedroom wall sticking out into the garden. The garage wall would be perfect, its south facing nothing against it and already has a separate 100amp supply. I've seen a few ASHP fitted a few metres from the house with the pipework insulated going into the house with no issues. So not sure why they won't take this approach. But hey-ho. 

It's more work than they want to do right now. It's a complication they don't need.

Plenty of other installers would do it though.