Confused about whether is a boundary wall or nothing of the sort, please help!

Misthios

Hi all, in the attached photo where the arrows point, is the back wall of my house.

The land that is behind the hedge and the adjacent house with the white windows, is the neighbour's garden. 
There's no other fence or wall that separates my house's back wall and the neighbour's garden. So their garden stops on my house's back wall. That means I don't have access to the back wall of my house without entering the neighbour's house and garden.

Are the properties considered adjoining or neighbouring? Is the back wall of my house considered a boundary wall or a party wall or nothing of the sort?

The main reason I am asking is, can the neighbour build or attach anything on my house's back wall without my permission?

Many thanks in advance for all your help. 

ThisIsWeird

Hi Misthios.

Can you confirm that your deeds map shows your boundary as running right along your house wall? Do you have a garden behind your house? If so, how does the black boundary line, which is likely to be inset with red, follow all this?

Any chance of a pic of your deeds map?

Misthios

Hello ThisIsWeird, thank you so much for looking into it for me. 

Sure please see attached photo.

No 5 is my property in red and in the space with the red and yellow line (I draw it) it's my patio.

The neighbour's fence starts from the car park where is No 5 in a black square with and yellow line in it (I drew the yellow line) and it finishes at the start of my patio/garden.

The big no 5 is my house and the house's back wall which I don't have windows.  at the back where's the big yellow line (I drew it) it's the neighbour's garden am talking about.

Misthios

Here's another image from another document if that helps, many thanks again. 

ThisIsWeird

Misthios said:

Hello ThisIsWeird, thank you so much for looking into it for me. 

Sure please see attached photo.

No 5 is my property in red and in the space with the red and yellow line (I draw it) it's my patio.

The neighbour's fence starts from the car park where is No 5 in a black square with and yellow line in it (I drew the yellow line) and it finishes at the start of my patio/garden.

The big no 5 is my house and the house's back wall which I don't have windows.  at the back where's the big yellow line (I drew it) it's the neighbour's garden am talking about.

Thanks.

Ok, I'm confused! Could you read the associated text too, please, and tell us specifically what it says about the boundaries, the red lines, and the brown/yellow cross-hatched parts?

I was expecting to see a plan with a red line around all of your property - house, garden, driveways, whatevs - to indicate the extent of your 'estate'.

I'm hoping that the black 'boundary' line that runs past your house wall is the boundary, in which case you own a triangular slice of land against that wall. That black line continues to the right (on the map) until it turns a corner. That first part which is straight, does it line up with anything as it goes past your house? Where that black line joins/touches the pavement to the left (on the map), is there anything physical there to indicate that 'point'? For instance, if you look at the actual pavement shown in the map, it appears to bend slightly at around that point - is there anything like that on the 'ground'?

Misthios

ThisIsWeird said:

Hi Misthios.

Can you confirm that your deeds map shows your boundary as running right along your house wall? Do you have a garden behind your house? If so, how does the black boundary line, which is likely to be inset with red, follow all this?

Any chance of a pic of your deeds map?

Just posted the photos, any thoughts? Many thanks again.

Misthios

Misthios said:

ThisIsWeird said:

Hi Misthios.

Can you confirm that your deeds map shows your boundary as running right along your house wall? Do you have a garden behind your house? If so, how does the black boundary line, which is likely to be inset with red, follow all this?

Any chance of a pic of your deeds map?

Just posted the photos, any thoughts? Many thanks again.

Hello, the photo was from the official transfer plan, so I loaded now a photo from the deeds which is simpler. Does this help? Many thanks again.

Misthios

ThisIsWeird said:

Misthios said:

Hello ThisIsWeird, thank you so much for looking into it for me. 

Sure please see attached photo.

No 5 is my property in red and in the space with the red and yellow line (I draw it) it's my patio.

The neighbour's fence starts from the car park where is No 5 in a black square with and yellow line in it (I drew the yellow line) and it finishes at the start of my patio/garden.

The big no 5 is my house and the house's back wall which I don't have windows.  at the back where's the big yellow line (I drew it) it's the neighbour's garden am talking about.

Thanks.

Ok, I'm confused! Could you read the associated text too, please, and tell us specifically what it says about the boundaries, the red lines, and the brown/yellow cross-hatched parts?

I was expecting to see a plan with a red line around all of your property - house, garden, driveways, whatevs - to indicate the extent of your 'estate'.

I'm hoping that the black 'boundary' line that runs past your house wall is the boundary, in which case you own a triangular slice of land against that wall. That black line continues to the right (on the map) until it turns a corner. That first part which is straight, does it line up with anything as it goes past your house? Where that black line joins/touches the pavement to the left (on the map), is there anything physical there to indicate that 'point'? For instance, if you look at the actual pavement shown in the map, it appears to bend slightly at around that point - is there anything like that on the 'ground'?

 Sorry about that, the black line is a mystery, I thought I would have found a kind of gap or a path but there's nothing. I think I should look into that because it could be access to the back wall of my house? 

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

Misthios said:

The main reason I am asking is, can the neighbour build or attach anything on my house's back wall without my permission?

Are they wanting to build an extension of attaching trellis or such to the wall?

@Doozergirl will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe an extension should be built right up to the wall so there's no gap because if there were a tiny gap it would be impossible to maintain the two walls either side of said gap.

If they are attaching trellis or such then no I don't believe they can do so as it's your house/wall but some more knowledgeable posters may advise otherwise  

Misthios

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

Misthios said:

The main reason I am asking is, can the neighbour build or attach anything on my house's back wall without my permission?

Are they wanting to build an extension of attaching trellis or such to the wall?

@Doozergirl will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe an extension should be built right up to the wall so there's no gap because if there were a tiny gap it would be impossible to maintain the two walls either side of said gap.

If they are attaching trellis or such then no I don't believe they can do so as it's your house/wall but some more knowledgeable posters may advise otherwise  

Thank you so much. Well, I figured out that they have attached a trellis and built a stone/cement made raised bed 2 metres long, 70cm high and filled it with soil and plants all these attached to my house's wall. so my house's back wall is covered in soil and dump. So I am trying to figure out since my house's back wall is in their garden there's no fence or wall between me and the neighbour, is my house's back garden considered a boundary wall? Is the neighbour considered an adjoining or neighbouring property? 

Well if they want to go for an extension, again is that a party wall? Which I don't think so but not sure? 

Jellynailer

I suspect the neighbour may have built the extension without planning permission - check with your local authority or to keep on good terms pretend concern about damp and ask to see their plan.  Also check whether your deeds provide for access for maintenance purposes {mine do).