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Lodger for 17 years now a problem

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  • Bookworm105
    Bookworm105 Posts: 2,015 Forumite
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    edited 2 September 2024 at 11:25AM
    jamesobrien said: 
     
    Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.
    The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC.I was hoping might be some professionals on here.
    there are professionals on here, but professional answers come at professional cost 

    your question was, in absence of written tenancy agreement, what notice rights do you have as a lodger
    you have been given the answer: none

    you can resort to threats if that is your attitude to life (which we now appear to be getting hints at) but they will be based on he said, you said 
    PIM4002 - Rent-a-room: letting as office accommodation - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
  • RHemmings
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    Personally in the OP's situation, I would think about when I can realistically (and moderately conveniently) leave, and then pro-actively suggest that date to the landlord. Then, you'll at least get an answer. If the landlord is saying that they want you out 'sometime', then they may not know themselves. Taking the initiative may give you (OP) some control. 
  • theartfullodger
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    edited 2 September 2024 at 1:01PM
    Regarding eviction of lodgers see here (assuming England - is it??)
    https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/eviction_of_lodgers_and_other_excluded_occupiers


    As long as your landlord has been genuinely living in the same building (apart from hols, hospital etc etc ) you are a lodger and easily evicted... 
  • Eldi_Dos
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    OP, I would make contact with your local housing authority about being rehoused and what the procedures would be for you.By the sounds of it you are going to need alternative accommodation in the not to distant future.
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  • GDB2222
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    tacpot12 said:
    The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 
    Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.
    One of the snags with asking for advice on a forum is that it's not all 100% accurate. Besides which, you haven't given a lot of details.

    Regarding the landlord's tax, my advice is to dob him in. Or, don't dob him in. It's up to you. But, I strongly advise against threatening to dob him in unless he does what you want. That can land you in court. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • katejo
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    tacpot12 said:
    The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 
    But there are restrictions if the lodger is running a business from the property 
  • katejo
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    GDB2222 said:
    tacpot12 said:
    The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 
    Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.
    One of the snags with asking for advice on a forum is that it's not all 100% accurate. Besides which, you haven't given a lot of details.

    Regarding the landlord's tax, my advice is to dob him in. Or, don't dob him in. It's up to you. But, I strongly advise against threatening to dob him in unless he does what you want. That can land you in court. 
    The £7500 came in in about 2012. Before that it was under £5000. 
  • theartfullodger
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    edited 2 September 2024 at 1:08PM
    Re """  But, I strongly advise against threatening to dob him in unless he does what you want. That can land you in court.   """"


    Explaining politely and calmly (ideally in front off witnesses ..) that you are minded to inform the authorities of his income is very unlikely to lead to court.. If it's all been above board and honest, no problem for anyone.  Who (or what ..) is going to take someone to court, and on what charge please??

    I know from personal experience that informing HMRC can result in action (change in someone else's - not mine.. - tax code..., with request for more evidence..).  Met him again later in hospital.. 

    Surely all citizens have a duty to inform the relevant authorities is suspected fraud..??
  • Eldi_Dos said:
    OP, I would make contact with your local housing authority about being rehoused and what the procedures would be for you.By the sounds of it you are going to need alternative accommodation in the not to distant future.
    I would be surprised if OP can run a business from a council property and also surprised the landlord allowed it because it's probably in breach of mortgage conditions if he has one.
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