Lodger for 17 years now a problem

jamesobrien

I have been in a Lodger in house with Landlord and 1 other lodger for 17 years. There has never been a written agreement was all verbal ,plus I paid always in cash ,usually 6 monthly as he was fine with that. I don't think he declares anything at all to anyone.

I have 1 bedroom for myself and a separate room which  use for running my business online.  Does that make a difference to my position as regards my status as Lodger ?

Clearly over 17 years I have accumulated a lot of stuff and have my own phone number and line / plus internet connections installed.  What I am worried about most is how much notice I should get as nothing is in writing.

gazfocus

It's not clear from your post...are you wanting to move or is the landlord wanting you to move? I'm just trying to understand where the 'now a problem' is.

If, at present, everything is going along nicely, I wouldn't want to be upsetting things by trying to make anything 'official'.

jamesobrien

gazfocus said:

It's not clear from your post...are you wanting to move or is the landlord wanting you to move? I'm just trying to understand where the 'now a problem' is.

If, at present, everything is going along nicely, I wouldn't want to be upsetting things by trying to make anything 'official'.

Sorry,  the Landlord has simply said they want me out at sometime in near future, but nothing more and nothing written, so now I am worried. 

user1977

You have very limited rights as a lodger. What do you want to happen?

Grizebeck

Sit down and talk to them
So you both have an agreement of where things go.

Bookworm105

with nothing in writing the LL is entitled to give you zero notice and to call the police to throw you out if you refuse to leave the property when asked (although unlikely the police would attend unless it descended into a punch up)

after 17 years if you cannot talk to the LL and agree on "something" then it is probably best that you move on anyway 

if you want to resort to threats over "never declared" then again it is time you leave because sharing a poisonous house is not good for you  

lookbook

Talk it over a nice cup of tea. 

tacpot12

The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 

jamesobrien

tacpot12 said:

The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 

Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.

user1977

jamesobrien said:

tacpot12 said:

The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 

Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.

There are professionals here.

Are you saying you have something more like a commercial lease in place (at least in respect of one room) than a lodgers agreement? If this is just something you started doing and it's ancillary to your residence at the property, I doubt that changes anything.

Besides, even if you did have a more commercial licence to use a room, it's highly likely that would have permitted the landlord to terminate it on relatively short notice, so I'm not sure how that would have helped you. If you wanted more security then the time to negotiate a longer term lease was some time ago.

BarelySentientAI

jamesobrien said:

tacpot12 said:

The "Rent-a-Room" scheme allows home owners to earn £7,500 a year without having to declare the income to HRMC. 

Wrong.  (a) Has not always been £7,500  (b) Running a business/company takes it outside of that . I was hoping might be some professionals on here.

Is your business renting a room from the landlord?  Are you renting a room from a limited company (it sounds not)?

"I happen to have started a side business" doesn't make it a commercial contract.