BT or Virgin have installed big green cabinet on my green

Mani0208888

Hi all,

 

BT have gone and installed a green cabinet on the side of my house on my property without my permission is there anything that I can do?

 

As I was planning to fence that area off, I`m not happy about this at all.

iniltous

If it’s in the public footpath and not on your land then no , you have no rights over land you don’t own , if it’s now in the way of an access you may want to create , then you would have to pay for its relocation,

It makes no difference to the legality of its placement but are you sure it’s BT ? , there are hardly any reasons why BT or more accurately Openreach would build a new cabinet as their new FTTP network doesn’t use cabinets , and there is no reason to expand the copper network ,  but other Alternative Networks do use street cabinets and to the untrained eye , it’s not easy to tell what company a cabinet belongs to .

FWIW ,  notices are published by the council , from whoever applied for permission to site the cabinet ( so you coukd ask the council who owns it ) , and anyway local ‘notices’ and publicity are produced in advance incase any objections are raised  ( objections which don’t necessarily change their plans ) 

elsien

Picture or diagram would help.

Browntoa

Openreach have the legal right to put equipment wherever they like to provide service to customers if there is no other solution.

If it's actually on your land then there should be a wayleave agreed (or possibly in existence if they have had cables etc in that location) 

Mani0208888

Here is a picture.

theoretica

I see both a grey cabinet and a green one - was the grey one already there and they have just added the green one next to it?  If so, perhaps the rights they had for the grey cabinet extend to new ones too.

Mani0208888

Grey one was already there before I bought my house, and it belongs to virgin.

This new one must be BT

iniltous

The contractors van has green duct inside it  ,and although the contractor may work for  all network providers , green duct is Virgin not Openreach (  this posts title was always wrong , BT don’t build external networks ) ,  and as the existing cabinet is grey , not a colour OR typically use for their cabinets , it’s a reasonable assumption that the new cabinet is an add on to the existing grey cabinet  , indicating it’s the same owner as the grey cabinet ( another indication it’s not Openreach ) 

If I were to hazard a guess that’s probably going to be Nexfibre ( so basically Virgin as they are building an FTTP network for Virgin ) and nothing to with Openreach or BT , so the title of this thread is almost certainly well wide of the mark .

The chances are the work , which pretty clearly is within the confines of the NRSWA ( within 1m of the public footpath ) and therefore perfectly legal, if it weren’t it’s only the council that could have a valid complaint.

TBH , it looks like the area in the photo that is fenced off , has illegally ‘grabbed’  local authority ‘land’ adjacent the footpath, (by fencing it off )  , so if your intention was to do the same , you would in effect be stealing that land from the local authority.

 If you ( or your neighbour ) made a legal application to ‘buy’ the land from the council , you would be liable to pay for the relocation of the grey cabinet ( you can’t simply enclose it within your land ,even  if you legally bought that land a condition of the sale would be to relocate the grey cabinet ) , let alone the new smaller green one , plus as the grey cabinet already existed , presumably you never complained about that one , so why the complaint about this new smaller additional cabinet , it makes no real difference to whatever you may have had planned .

TBH  , it sounds like you are simply upset about this new cabinet ,  but have no legal reason to feel that way .

iniltous

Mani0208888 said:

Grey one was already there before I bought my house, and it belongs to virgin.

This new one must be BT

why must it be BT ? , what are you basing that on , I have provided lots of ‘evidence’ that is not Openreach, ( and explained BT don’t build external networks ) , yet you continue to say BT , so what do you base your belief that’s it BT’s cabinet on ? , TBH  legally it cannot be BT , the only way it could be Openreach is it’s it’s what’s called SHE , a subtended head end , and they are as common as hens teeth ,  it’s much more likely to be linked to that existing grey VM cabinet .

littleboo

Have they built a box in pavement in front of the cabinet? If so, whose names is on the cover?

lookbook

elsien said:

Picture or diagram would help.

That would be useful.