Economy 7 - problem with Landis+Gyr meter (non-smart)

MeteredOut

Grizzlebeard said:

Aliens have to charge their ESVs and I think I almost not quite nearly caught one when I rolled home from the Pub last night.

(Electric Space Vehicles)

I though all aliens used nuclear fusion nowadays.

FreeBear

MeteredOut said:

Grizzlebeard said:

Aliens have to charge their ESVs and I think I almost not quite nearly caught one when I rolled home from the Pub last night.

(Electric Space Vehicles)

I though all aliens used nuclear fusion nowadays.

Nuclear fusion or fission is old hat. An artificial quantum singularity is a safer technology (and much more reliable).

NiceDogMan

Reed_Richards said:

@NiceDogMan, you promised you would create your own thread, but you keep coming back to this one.  It would be better if you did what you said you would do.    

Ah yes ... you will see so far that I have only posted in this thread to date ... although it HAS caused a bit of a flurry of excitement that has proved quite interesting!  

I said I would create my own thread, and that will come soon ... the delay mainly being a chronic fatiguing health condition which creates limitations as to how quickly I can deal with all manner of things ... researching and analysing these issues included.

At the time of writing, and following a number of months of (at times) only sporadic replies from my supplier, I have still not yet been able to identify the cause of the "inexplicable" overnight increase in charging /consumption that I have previously mentioned ... and so no separate thread just yet. 

As far as our general usage of electricity is concerned, may I remind that we are creatures of regular habit, we have no electrical items that have knowingly and independently misbehaved (if that is possible) in a way to cause the usage indicated by the meter reads, no items that have demonstrated faults, we have also not been inclined to become nocturnal and created a habit of using high consumption gadgets overnight .... and so at present I remain at a loss as to how such an anomaly (of high overnight consumption) could have occurred, because I can find no clear evidence to give reason for such a thing happening.  

I apologise if I have previously presented what appears to be "conspiracy theory" in trying to explore this issue, but I see my earlier comments more as a "lateral thinking" exercise in order to seek a plausible explanation for the problem(s) I have described ... 

And as I continue to try to analyse and quantify our historic consumption patterns, I have now found other previously unnoticed fluctuations that I cannot explain ... where there have been a number of other occasions further back in our energy supply history that have shown similar inexplicably high overnight consumption periods ... a few odd months, or a few months together, during 2021 and 2022.

Also, interestingly, where ALL of these "high overnight consumption" anomalies occur, they have ALL also shown a corresponding and significant drop in daytime consumption - which I find most strange and equally as inexplicable as the overnight issue.

Now there might be an argument that there has somehow been an inadvertent transposition of meter reading values that has caused this "reversal" of daytime/nightime consumption .... but the record of meter reads across all of these months is accurate and continuous for both day and night periods, and is recorded as such in my billing history.

And so I am still left with no real clue as to how such peculiar consumption issues could arise in the first place, and then, equally mysteriously, simply return to a "normal" pattern of higher daytime / lower nightime consumption?

I appreciate that some will want to see figures/graphs/calculations that support the points I have described above and before ... well I can only promise that this will happen as soon as I am able ... and yes, in a separate thread ... 

Thanks for reading ...

BarelySentientAI

NiceDogMan said:

Reed_Richards said:

@NiceDogMan, you promised you would create your own thread, but you keep coming back to this one.  It would be better if you did what you said you would do.    

Ah yes ... you will see so far that I have only posted in this thread to date ... although it HAS caused a bit of a flurry of excitement that has proved quite interesting!  

I said I would create my own thread, and that will come soon ... the delay mainly being a chronic fatiguing health condition which creates limitations as to how quickly I can deal with all manner of things ... researching and analysing these issues included.

At the time of writing, and following a number of months of (at times) only sporadic replies from my supplier, I have still not yet been able to identify the cause of the "inexplicable" overnight increase in charging /consumption that I have previously mentioned ... and so no separate thread just yet. 

As far as our general usage of electricity is concerned, may I remind that we are creatures of regular habit, we have no electrical items that have knowingly and independently misbehaved (if that is possible) in a way to cause the usage indicated by the meter reads, no items that have demonstrated faults, we have also not been inclined to become nocturnal and created a habit of using high consumption gadgets overnight .... and so at present I remain at a loss as to how such an anomaly (of high overnight consumption) could have occurred, because I can find no clear evidence to give reason for such a thing happening.  

I apologise if I have previously presented what appears to be "conspiracy theory" in trying to explore this issue, but I see my earlier comments more as a "lateral thinking" exercise in order to seek a plausible explanation for the problem(s) I have described ... 

And as I continue to try to analyse and quantify our historic consumption patterns, I have now found other previously unnoticed fluctuations that I cannot explain ... where there have been a number of other occasions further back in our energy supply history that have shown similar inexplicably high overnight consumption periods ... a few odd months, or a few months together, during 2021 and 2022.

Also, interestingly, where ALL of these "high overnight consumption" anomalies occur, they have ALL also shown a corresponding and significant drop in daytime consumption - which I find most strange and equally as inexplicable as the overnight issue.

Now there might be an argument that there has somehow been an inadvertent transposition of meter reading values that has caused this "reversal" of daytime/nightime consumption .... but the record of meter reads across all of these months is accurate and continuous for both day and night periods, and is recorded as such in my billing history.

And so I am still left with no real clue as to how such peculiar consumption issues could arise in the first place, and then, equally mysteriously, simply return to a "normal" pattern of higher daytime / lower nightime consumption?

I appreciate that some will want to see figures/graphs/calculations that support the points I have described above and before ... well I can only promise that this will happen as soon as I am able ... and yes, in a separate thread ... 

Thanks for reading ...

So an intermittent time clock issue rather than some nefarious shadow scheme to manipulate the figures.

And in a way that was more likely to benefit you than the supplier.

NiceDogMan

BarelySentientAI said:

So an intermittent time clock issue rather than some nefarious shadow scheme to manipulate the figures.

And in a way that was more likely to benefit you than the supplier.

Ah ... that's interesting ... perhaps you could give a little more information as to how this issue arises, and how it is of more benefit to the consumer than the supplier?

Just for reference, I conducted a Creep Test as directed by my supplier ... and as there was no consumption occurring on the consumer side during the test, I have been advised that the meter is performing faultlessly.

BarelySentientAI

NiceDogMan said:

BarelySentientAI said:

So an intermittent time clock issue rather than some nefarious shadow scheme to manipulate the figures.

And in a way that was more likely to benefit you than the supplier.

Ah ... that's interesting ... perhaps you could give a little more information as to how this issue arises, and how it is of more benefit to the consumer than the supplier?

Just for reference, I conducted a Creep Test as directed by my supplier ... and as there was no consumption occurring on the consumer side during the test, I have been advised that the meter is performing faultlessly.

Based on your description you had an increase in night (so cheaper off-peak) usage and a corresponding decrease in day (expensive peak) usage.  More cheap electricity and less expensive electricity - benefit to customer.

If you've been complaining that it's measuring wrong - which is what your previous posts were suggesting - then of course the supplier would say that the creep test shows that it's fine.

Sounds more like it's measuring right but counting it in the wrong 'bucket' sometimes.

Grizzlebeard

FreeBear said:

MeteredOut said:

Grizzlebeard said:

Aliens have to charge their ESVs and I think I almost not quite nearly caught one when I rolled home from the Pub last night.

(Electric Space Vehicles)

I though all aliens used nuclear fusion nowadays.

Nuclear fusion or fission is old hat. An artificial quantum singularity is a safer technology (and much more reliable).

Compatibility.

Problems plugging it in.

The ArtQuansin USC (Ultra Small Connector) is only 2 atoms wide by 1 atom thick.,

(They all fly Hybrids because of the interstellar range limitation between charging points - which are all concentrated in the galaxy spiral arms.)

MSE_ForumTeam5

We've split this into a separate thread as it's a different issue from the original

victor2

@NiceDogMan you can add more information in here, as your discussion has been split out into a new thread.

Nothing beats the warp engines though for travelling beyond light speed. Old technology, but no charging required, just a bit of matter and anti-matter.

Reed_Richards

NiceDogMan said:
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Also, interestingly, where ALL of these "high overnight consumption" anomalies occur, they have ALL also shown a corresponding and significant drop in daytime consumption - which I find most strange and equally as inexplicable as the overnight issue.
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So actually this is more of a lucky break than a problem!  It looks like you or you meter have managed to shift some of your normal expensive daytime consumption to be cheap night-time consumption.  So you pay less and it's actually a good thing!