Unjustly Stopped: Understanding My Rights as a Tesco Shopper if this happens again

Jemma01

eskbanker said:

HillStreetBlues said:

I wonder what they look for when random checking?
Might be wise to avoid using this bag
 

....especially when dressed like this for the trip to Tesco!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bless your heart I lol'd in the office, my brain wasn't expecting this.

TELLIT01

I rarely use self-checkout anywhere but understand fully why those who do are more likely to be stopped than those using staffed till.  The opportunity to 'forget' or 'mis-scan' an item is far greater with self-scan.  If you don't want the additional inconvenience/embarrassment of this happening simply use the staffed tills. 

Being checked twice in two years suggests you aren't exactly being targetted.

LightFlare

I've never been checked or challenged in 10+ years going twice weekly.

Guess some people just fit a profile and/or look suspicious and others dont

I did have a heart attack in the middle of the store however and all the staff were amazing (apparently)

Pollycat

TELLIT01 said:

I rarely use self-checkout anywhere but understand fully why those who do are more likely to be stopped than those using staffed till.  The opportunity to 'forget' or 'mis-scan' an item is far greater with self-scan.  If you don't want the additional inconvenience/embarrassment of this happening simply use the staffed tills. 

Being checked twice in two years suggests you aren't exactly being targetted.

In my case, it's staffed till.
I could go through the self scan tills 3 times whilst waiting in the queue at the staffed till

Ergates

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

Ergates said:

Yes, but whilst it's *unlikely* anything would come of it (especially if you're polite) it's still something to consider when deciding whether or not to cooperate with a request for a random check.  The minor inconvenience of going along with the check vs the risk of what could be a greater and longer term inconvenience of having to change where you shop.

I guess it depends on what is minor to you, someone might be running late, might have social anxiety, perhaps they are vulnerable leading towards the issue of abuse.

If the police could randomly stop and search you don't think there wouldn't be questions raised as to how they randomly pick people and whether prejudice affects their choices? Same could be said of security.

If both parties are decent nothing more comes of it, this inconvenience you talk of only arises if the member of staff escalates the situation either through ignorance of being entitled to (randomly) detain and search or because they just don't like being defied, for the customer to then end up banned because of the poor behaviour of the staff is very unlikely.  

The random stopping of people for them to account for their activities is something millions fought and died to protect, watering down the concept of innocent until proven guilty because of a rogue element isn't the answer to deter shoplifting but rather for people to stand up and demand less money for billionaires and instead more money for public services, not only law enforcement but arts, culture, youth centres, parks, sports and leisure centres, community projects, things that would improve the general standard of living, providing a sense of purpose and identity whilst installing greater ideals of community but sadly people are too busy engaging in divide and conquer with their fellow man and gorging on self indulgence. 

People seem to have a skewed sense of morality by perceiving they are being helpful by complying with something they aren't obligated to do for the "greater good" when in reality they are simply allowing a broken system to continue to be broken whilst giving anyway their freedoms. 

I may be wrong but ultimately I think it's all moot anyway as I doubt supermarkets employ tactics of randomly asking to check people in the UK, partly as it would be a negative experience for customers and they have no basis in law do so, but mainly because they would be opening themselves up to claims of discrimination. 

I think you might be reading a *little* bit too much in this.

We're not talking about gestapo officers roaming the streets shouting "Vere are your papers?" at people.  We're talking supermarkets who operate self-service tills saying they may ask to check customer's receipts before leaving the store.   I'm fairly certain nobody ever fought and died to avoid that.

Emmia

Ergates said:

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

Ergates said:

Yes, but whilst it's *unlikely* anything would come of it (especially if you're polite) it's still something to consider when deciding whether or not to cooperate with a request for a random check.  The minor inconvenience of going along with the check vs the risk of what could be a greater and longer term inconvenience of having to change where you shop.

I guess it depends on what is minor to you, someone might be running late, might have social anxiety, perhaps they are vulnerable leading towards the issue of abuse.

If the police could randomly stop and search you don't think there wouldn't be questions raised as to how they randomly pick people and whether prejudice affects their choices? Same could be said of security.

If both parties are decent nothing more comes of it, this inconvenience you talk of only arises if the member of staff escalates the situation either through ignorance of being entitled to (randomly) detain and search or because they just don't like being defied, for the customer to then end up banned because of the poor behaviour of the staff is very unlikely.  

The random stopping of people for them to account for their activities is something millions fought and died to protect, watering down the concept of innocent until proven guilty because of a rogue element isn't the answer to deter shoplifting but rather for people to stand up and demand less money for billionaires and instead more money for public services, not only law enforcement but arts, culture, youth centres, parks, sports and leisure centres, community projects, things that would improve the general standard of living, providing a sense of purpose and identity whilst installing greater ideals of community but sadly people are too busy engaging in divide and conquer with their fellow man and gorging on self indulgence. 

People seem to have a skewed sense of morality by perceiving they are being helpful by complying with something they aren't obligated to do for the "greater good" when in reality they are simply allowing a broken system to continue to be broken whilst giving anyway their freedoms. 

I may be wrong but ultimately I think it's all moot anyway as I doubt supermarkets employ tactics of randomly asking to check people in the UK, partly as it would be a negative experience for customers and they have no basis in law do so, but mainly because they would be opening themselves up to claims of discrimination. 

I think you might be reading a *little* bit too much in this.

We're not talking about gestapo officers roaming the streets shouting "Vere are your papers?" at people.  We're talking supermarkets who operate self-service tills saying they may ask to check customer's receipts before leaving the store.   I'm fairly certain nobody ever fought and died to avoid that.

In some supermarkets in Europe you have to scan a barcode on the receipt to leave the shop, as a means of deterring shoplifting...

user1977

Emmia said:

Ergates said:

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

Ergates said:

Yes, but whilst it's *unlikely* anything would come of it (especially if you're polite) it's still something to consider when deciding whether or not to cooperate with a request for a random check.  The minor inconvenience of going along with the check vs the risk of what could be a greater and longer term inconvenience of having to change where you shop.

I guess it depends on what is minor to you, someone might be running late, might have social anxiety, perhaps they are vulnerable leading towards the issue of abuse.

If the police could randomly stop and search you don't think there wouldn't be questions raised as to how they randomly pick people and whether prejudice affects their choices? Same could be said of security.

If both parties are decent nothing more comes of it, this inconvenience you talk of only arises if the member of staff escalates the situation either through ignorance of being entitled to (randomly) detain and search or because they just don't like being defied, for the customer to then end up banned because of the poor behaviour of the staff is very unlikely.  

The random stopping of people for them to account for their activities is something millions fought and died to protect, watering down the concept of innocent until proven guilty because of a rogue element isn't the answer to deter shoplifting but rather for people to stand up and demand less money for billionaires and instead more money for public services, not only law enforcement but arts, culture, youth centres, parks, sports and leisure centres, community projects, things that would improve the general standard of living, providing a sense of purpose and identity whilst installing greater ideals of community but sadly people are too busy engaging in divide and conquer with their fellow man and gorging on self indulgence. 

People seem to have a skewed sense of morality by perceiving they are being helpful by complying with something they aren't obligated to do for the "greater good" when in reality they are simply allowing a broken system to continue to be broken whilst giving anyway their freedoms. 

I may be wrong but ultimately I think it's all moot anyway as I doubt supermarkets employ tactics of randomly asking to check people in the UK, partly as it would be a negative experience for customers and they have no basis in law do so, but mainly because they would be opening themselves up to claims of discrimination. 

I think you might be reading a *little* bit too much in this.

We're not talking about gestapo officers roaming the streets shouting "Vere are your papers?" at people.  We're talking supermarkets who operate self-service tills saying they may ask to check customer's receipts before leaving the store.   I'm fairly certain nobody ever fought and died to avoid that.

In some supermarkets in Europe you have to scan a barcode on the receipt to leave the shop, as a means of deterring shoplifting...

In the UK parts of Europe, this is (recent) common practice at Sainsbury's, in order to leave the self-scan corral.

prowla

user1977 said:

Emmia said:

Ergates said:

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

Ergates said:

Yes, but whilst it's *unlikely* anything would come of it (especially if you're polite) it's still something to consider when deciding whether or not to cooperate with a request for a random check.  The minor inconvenience of going along with the check vs the risk of what could be a greater and longer term inconvenience of having to change where you shop.

I guess it depends on what is minor to you, someone might be running late, might have social anxiety, perhaps they are vulnerable leading towards the issue of abuse.

If the police could randomly stop and search you don't think there wouldn't be questions raised as to how they randomly pick people and whether prejudice affects their choices? Same could be said of security.

If both parties are decent nothing more comes of it, this inconvenience you talk of only arises if the member of staff escalates the situation either through ignorance of being entitled to (randomly) detain and search or because they just don't like being defied, for the customer to then end up banned because of the poor behaviour of the staff is very unlikely.  

The random stopping of people for them to account for their activities is something millions fought and died to protect, watering down the concept of innocent until proven guilty because of a rogue element isn't the answer to deter shoplifting but rather for people to stand up and demand less money for billionaires and instead more money for public services, not only law enforcement but arts, culture, youth centres, parks, sports and leisure centres, community projects, things that would improve the general standard of living, providing a sense of purpose and identity whilst installing greater ideals of community but sadly people are too busy engaging in divide and conquer with their fellow man and gorging on self indulgence. 

People seem to have a skewed sense of morality by perceiving they are being helpful by complying with something they aren't obligated to do for the "greater good" when in reality they are simply allowing a broken system to continue to be broken whilst giving anyway their freedoms. 

I may be wrong but ultimately I think it's all moot anyway as I doubt supermarkets employ tactics of randomly asking to check people in the UK, partly as it would be a negative experience for customers and they have no basis in law do so, but mainly because they would be opening themselves up to claims of discrimination. 

I think you might be reading a *little* bit too much in this.

We're not talking about gestapo officers roaming the streets shouting "Vere are your papers?" at people.  We're talking supermarkets who operate self-service tills saying they may ask to check customer's receipts before leaving the store.   I'm fairly certain nobody ever fought and died to avoid that.

In some supermarkets in Europe you have to scan a barcode on the receipt to leave the shop, as a means of deterring shoplifting...

In the UK parts of Europe, this is (recent) common practice at Sainsbury's, in order to leave the self-scan corral.

That really annoys me; I don't like being assumend to be a thief and now only occasionally shop at Sainsbury's.

born_again

Emmia said:

In some supermarkets in Europe you have to scan a barcode on the receipt to leave the shop, as a means of deterring shoplifting...

Morrisons started doing that, seem to have stopped now, as I guess people complained about the waste of paper.

screech_78

I exclusively use self-checkouts, even with a large shop. Have done since their inception and never once, have I been challenged. But I use a basket or a trolley, I don’t do odd things like put shopping in a carrier bag before paying for it.