Simple question - passport stamped when arriving Europe

twopenny

So having been unable to travel for the last few years and post pandemic and brexit I've read some confusing things

Now trying to work out the ins and outs of travel in the EU for basic weeks holiday I think my old passport will be ok.

7/15 - 7/25

As long as I go and leave with the required amount of time according to the Entry requirements on the gov website.

I seem to have worked out that it's just the passport and that it will be stamped on entry and exit.

Have I got this right please?

There was a whole lot of stuff about years and renewal previously which I couldn't get my head around.

I've travelled the world independently in my life but now organising post pandemic is online and diy and I'm unsure of myself.

TELLIT01

Yes it is as simple as having your passport stamped on arrival and departure from the EU.

elsien

And of course no longer being able to pass through the much quicker EU gates rather than the longer “everyone else” queue.

The staff member at Barcelona Airport was taking great pleasure in sending them back simply saying “England. Brexit” as people who appeared  to have overlooked the travel implications of leaving the EU, were still trying to head through that gate. 

twopenny

Thanks for that. Seems it's got easier.

Elsien, they have to spend all day looking at ugly photos and dates and people enjoying themselves. I'm guessing it's a welcome diversion/entertainment for them   

Marksfish

elsien said:

The staff member at Barcelona Airport was taking great pleasure in sending them back simply saying “England. Brexit” as people who appeared  to have overlooked the travel implications of leaving the EU, were still trying to head through that gate. 

Should fly into Murcia or Almeria, still all go through the one passport control  . bit of a long trip to Barcelona though!

csw5780

Next year things change https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/smart-borders/european-travel-information-authorisation-system_en
 

Travel authorisation will be required for visa waivers:  “ ETIAS will start being operational in the first half of 2025. The ETIAS Regulation provides for transitional measures to ensure a smooth roll out of the system.”

Brie

The only thing I'm aware of is that you need to have sufficient time (6 months?) left on your passport without taking into account any extra time that might have been added due to renewing early.  

So if your last passport was due to expire in 7/15 but you renewed it in 2/15 then EU only takes account of the time 2/15-2/25 despite your new passport saying it expires in 7/25.  Lots of people caught out by this.  I think it only applies to UK passports going into the EU with different rules for different passports or UK passports to other places like the USA.  

zagfles

csw5780 said:

Next year things change https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen-borders-and-visa/smart-borders/european-travel-information-authorisation-system_en
 

Travel authorisation will be required for visa waivers:  “ ETIAS will start being operational in the first half of 2025. The ETIAS Regulation provides for transitional measures to ensure a smooth roll out of the system.”

We'll see. It was announced in 2018, supposed to launch in 2022 but has been delayed several times. I wouldn't bet on it being operational next year. But obviously keep your eye on it if you're travelling next year. 

zagfles

Brie said:

The only thing I'm aware of is that you need to have sufficient time (6 months?) left on your passport without taking into account any extra time that might have been added due to renewing early.  

So if your last passport was due to expire in 7/15 but you renewed it in 2/15 then EU only takes account of the time 2/15-2/25 despite your new passport saying it expires in 7/25.  Lots of people caught out by this.  I think it only applies to UK passports going into the EU with different rules for different passports or UK passports to other places like the USA.  

Why do people keep posting this incorrect information? As long as you enter using a passport less than 10 years old it can exceed 10 years old while you're there if it's still valid.  

From the horses mouth: 

Travel documents for non-EU nationals - Your Europe (europa.eu)

And a maybe better explaination here: 

Travelling to Europe following Brexit | ABTA

zagfles

elsien said:

And of course no longer being able to pass through the much quicker EU gates rather than the longer “everyone else” queue.

The staff member at Barcelona Airport was taking great pleasure in sending them back simply saying “England. Brexit” as people who appeared  to have overlooked the travel implications of leaving the EU, were still trying to head through that gate. 

Whether it's quicker or not seems to depend on the proportions of EU and non EU citizens who are going through. Sometimes the non EU queue is quicker (even though EU people could probably use the non EU queues). 

A couple of airports I've been through have been fussy about checking you've got a return ticket, not sure what happens if you don't have one as obviously not all travellers will have pre-booked return/onward travel.  

Twopints

zagfles said:

Brie said:

The only thing I'm aware of is that you need to have sufficient time (6 months?) left on your passport without taking into account any extra time that might have been added due to renewing early.  

So if your last passport was due to expire in 7/15 but you renewed it in 2/15 then EU only takes account of the time 2/15-2/25 despite your new passport saying it expires in 7/25.  Lots of people caught out by this.  I think it only applies to UK passports going into the EU with different rules for different passports or UK passports to other places like the USA.  

Why do people keep posting this incorrect information? As long as you enter using a passport less than 10 years old it can exceed 10 years old while you're there if it's still valid.  

From the horses mouth: 

Travel documents for non-EU nationals - Your Europe (europa.eu)

And a maybe better explanation here: 

Travelling to Europe following Brexit | ABTA

It is correct that the EU take the 10 years from the renewal date, and do not use the expiry date, which is a change from how it used to work. 

From the first link, there is an another condition in addition to the 10 year rule:

"This means your travel document must have been issued within the previous 10 years the day you enter the EU on condition that it is valid until the end of your stay plus an additional 3 months."