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bona vacantia/ intestacy to unregistered land

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  • elsien said:
    elsien said:
    In your own words though “I mean how can the crown steal it off of a dead man/ woman with no relatives if they have no record of who owned it in the first place”, how can you steal it off a dead/man woman with no relatives if they have no record of who owned it on the first place?

    Exactly what i am saying!
    elsien said:
    elsien said

    Regardless of what the land is used for, whether sold off by the crown or taken by you for your garden, you are still appropriating it from the dead person’s estate. 



    I dont understand the point that you are making?

  • Section62 said:
    elsien said:


    The OP also appears to be confusing 'no record' and 'not registered with Land Registry' - the two aren't the same thing.  Unregistered property doesn't mean there is no record of who owns it/has an interest in it.
    But unregisted the goverment or Crown will have no record of this will they no?
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    elsien said:
    elsien said:
    In your own words though “I mean how can the crown steal it off of a dead man/ woman with no relatives if they have no record of who owned it in the first place”, how can you steal it off a dead/man woman with no relatives if they have no record of who owned it on the first place?

    Exactly what i am saying!
    elsien said:
    elsien said

    Regardless of what the land is used for, whether sold off by the crown or taken by you for your garden, you are still appropriating it from the dead person’s estate. 



    I dont understand the point that you are making?

    That going on your logic and terminology, by using adverse possession you would be stealing the land. 
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    Section62 said:
    elsien said:


    The OP also appears to be confusing 'no record' and 'not registered with Land Registry' - the two aren't the same thing.  Unregistered property doesn't mean there is no record of who owns it/has an interest in it.
    But unregisted the goverment or Crown will have no record of this will they no?
    If you assume the Land Registry is the only source of information about property ownership then you might be right, but that assumption would be wrong.

  • elsien said

    That going on your logic and terminology, by using adverse possession you would be stealing the land. 
    From whom?
  • Section62 said:
    Section62 said:
    elsien said:
    If you assume the Land Registry is the only source of information about property ownership then you might be right, but that assumption would be wrong.

    so what other sources of information are there then?
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    Section62 said:
    Section62 said:
    elsien said:
    If you assume the Land Registry is the only source of information about property ownership then you might be right, but that assumption would be wrong.

    so what other sources of information are there then?
    Lots. A quick google will help you research the subject more thoroughly than could ever be achieved through discussion on this forum.
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    Section62 said:
    Section62 said:
    elsien said:
    If you assume the Land Registry is the only source of information about property ownership then you might be right, but that assumption would be wrong.

    so what other sources of information are there then?
    Title Deeds and conveyancing documents - Copies may be held in local archives.
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  • elsien
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    elsien said

    That going on your logic and terminology, by using adverse possession you would be stealing the land. 
    From whom?
    I’m out now. Can’t be doing with going round in circles for no clear reason. It’s all perfectly self-explanatory with a little bit of effort. 
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

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