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  • BikingBud
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    But that is imposed and doesn't make the cat an "indoor cat" any more than locking my children in a wardrobe makes them wardrobe children.
  • FreeBear
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    Jemma01 said:
    BikingBud said:
    How does a cat know it is an indoor cat?

    I am not an pet person and don't subscribe to a lot of the bumpf that people dream up for animals that we try to tame but if in the cat equivalent of Maslow's hierarchy of needs the cat wants to go some where else it will! 

    9 August at 1:33PM
    true. We had a kitten that was trained to sit indoors, it decided it wanted to go out because it sees us in and out of the house, so it cried and cried until we let it out. Cats being cats. Keeping them indoors and convincing ourselves that we can control their needs is just rubbish. 
    However, keeping some cats indoors is essential in the control of FIV.
    Or get a catery, and the animal can enjoy the outdoors without the dangers.

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  • FreeBear said:
    Jemma01 said:
    BikingBud said:
    How does a cat know it is an indoor cat?

    I am not an pet person and don't subscribe to a lot of the bumpf that people dream up for animals that we try to tame but if in the cat equivalent of Maslow's hierarchy of needs the cat wants to go some where else it will! 

    9 August at 1:33PM
    true. We had a kitten that was trained to sit indoors, it decided it wanted to go out because it sees us in and out of the house, so it cried and cried until we let it out. Cats being cats. Keeping them indoors and convincing ourselves that we can control their needs is just rubbish. 
    However, keeping some cats indoors is essential in the control of FIV.
    Or get a catery, and the animal can enjoy the outdoors without the dangers.

    Catios are great.
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 13 August 2024 at 2:33PM
    an indoor cat tends to be ones that are older cos they have ailments eg their immune efficient or blind, but sometimes it can be that you live next to very busy road and it's safer for the cat to be indoors.

    lifespan is extended being an indoor cat.

    yes many YouTube videos of catio where you make your home like the outdoors but indoors, high climbing frames, perches, gazing spots, sunny ledges and puzzle frames with toys and treats

    I've had two cats killed by traffic by letting them become outdoor cats in previous places I lived in despite living in a private no through road, cats wander
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  • Skiddaw1
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    Think I've mentioned before that a close friend has four indoor cats (they have a garden but are adjacent to a busy road) and said cats are clearly very contented. So long as a cat has plenty of stimulation and some nice, quiet nests to retreat to they'll generally be quite contented. All ours have been outdoor cats but we've been lucky in having suitable gardens.
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 13 August 2024 at 2:49PM
    I don't have a garden I'm on first floor and cat flaps are not allowed to be fitted to the communal entrance

    cats can climb any fence you put in an enclosed garden easily though, or go under a panel gap
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  • .... I was told housing officer will call you back immediately, as I had reserved an elderly indoor cat by that point from cats protection league .... no call came, so I bought cat

    like why jump the gun? it sounds as if you were pretty set on getting that cat either or. otherwise just wait until the situation is clarified. yes might have taken some time, but it is a pretty low importance, no urgency request ...
  • Murphybear
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    AlexMac said:
    i have had 2 elderly indoor only cats from cat protection league charity in the past whilst living here….
    SO NO PROBLEM …
    I wanted clarification from my council…
    WHY? THEY WONT CARE? NO ONE EVER ASKS FOR PERMISSION 

    I was told housing officer will call you back… no call came, so I bought cat..
    AS ANYONE WOULD

    (then) they said they will turn a blind eye on this occasion… SO NO PROBLEM 

    they said they will bring cat policy up in next council meeting… BUT THEY HAVE MUCH MORE PRESSING PROBLEMS SO WON’T

    I said what about the future, am I prevented having a cat… WHY LEAD WITH YOUR CHIN?

    yes they said (but) they said many folk never declare either  an indoor or outdoor cat… CAN’T YOU TAKE A HINT? THEY DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE A CAT!

    but I'm now worried about any future cat charities checking my council pet policy … FEAR NOT. AS BOB MARLEY SANG “ Don’t worry , bout a ting, cos every little ting, goona be alright…”. 



    ENJOY YOUR LOVELY NEW CAT

    OUR GRANDDAUGHTER LIVES IN AN EX-COUNCIL FLAT WHICH WE OWN. SHE HAS TWO CATS. AS DID OUR PREVIOUS TENANTS OVER MANY YEARS. NEVER A PROBLEM. DON’ T MAKE ONE FOR YOURSELF!
    We live in over 60s sheltered housing.  The Housing Association not only allows pets but welcomes them.  Most of the occupants are single and having a cat or dog improves the quality of life.  

    I would agree with others, get an indoor cat and your LL won’t know you have one.  If they want to visit your property they have to give you 24 hours notice so you could “hide the cat”.  
  • Ramouth
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    If I understand correctly OP, the council have accepted your current cat but you are worried about any potential future cats?  I would suggest that you either only adopt cats who look very similar to your current cat and call them by the same name, or consider fostering.  The advantage of fostering being that you are not taking them on as a long term commitment so if there were complaints you could stop.  Also you could help a lot of cats in their hour if need.  
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 14 August 2024 at 8:20AM
    the thing is this is my second cat from cat charity, the first was elderly, had her 4 years.

    the charity want to see the tenancy agreement to make sure cats are allowed.they could not understand it  regarding indoor cats. yes no outdoor.was clear rule, but indoor was not making  sense 

    so when I had chance to get a rescue cat after my previous one passed away, I thought go to the same cat charity.

    they have very very few indoor only cats, normally they are old or have a disability.

    this cat has been an indoor cat all her life, so I quickly put my reserve interest  in and being efficient and honest I contacted council to double as their cat in a flat policy is vague and so different and not clear compared to other local housing associations

    no phone call came, the charity said as we are in same address since last cat we got from them, and that they could not understand the indoor cats rules from council,they had no problem letting us have cat.

    months later council phoned said sorry for delay, the previous officer left job and they had noone to cover my area, they said sorry no cats at all in flats, not even one floor low rise like mines.

    why, cos cat could upset your neighbour. omg I thought , now what. you can keep it she said, but in future no cats ever.

    so next time it will be going to an advert in local paper etc, where the owner isn't a landlord, checker,just a cat owner say moving abroad etc who has an indoor cat
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