CEL multiple court cases, hopefully the final waste of the courts time and mine..

Duke1999

Bit of bad news lost in Sevenoaks and lost for over £1700. The judge was worse judge I've ever met, he reinstated the claim and was the judge I was sat in front of. Funny enough the person who I have to pay the fee to at DCB Legal is Murphy Wright. The two wrights seems a bit suspect FUMING.

Car1980

Considering the high amount and your unique situation in that you have already received judgment for identical previous cases I would really consider putting in an appeal. 

https://www.advicenow.org.uk/get-help/going-court/small-claims-and-civil-court/appealing-against-county-court-decision

Duke1999

The judge ruled in favour of the claimant, finding that the Particulars of Claim were acceptable and that signage was present. The claimant relied on evidence showing signage and confirmation of authority dating back to 2018. I presented photographs from 2024 showing no signage, but the dispute itself occurred between 2021 and 2022.  

I also raised the Mazur point regarding the claim form being signed by Sarah Ensall and the N244 application being signed by Jessica Hammond. The case concerned 13 PCNs. The judge allowed interest at 4% and court costs and solicitors fee, but disallowed debt recovery agent costs.  

I asked the judge for permission to appeal on the grounds relating to signage, judge refused.

Bit concerning that the account i have been given to pay the CCJ off is of Murphy Wright, maybe just a coincidence but the Judges name was deputy district judge D Wright.

Another thing I noted during the case was that the witness statement of Scott Wilson that I received on the 14/11/2025, had NTK that were missing amounts of money claimed these had misteriously disappeared from the Claimants indexed bundle the court had received/shown in court.

 Is it worth appealing?

Costs risk?

Coupon-mad

I think ask Contestor Legal if they see grounds.

Urgently contact them with all documents and the fact you won previous hearings, were even awarded costs & a promise that all claims would be consolidated. and the POC were presumably the same as in CEL v Chan!

Duke1999

I would not feel comfortable placing myself in a position where I could potentially lose tens of thousands. That said, I am considering reporting both the judge and Scott Wilson, as there appears to have been missing evidence. The material served on me did not align with what the judge seemed to have before him. Specifically, the indexed bundle omitted the templated NTK, and when this is compared with the transcript and supporting email proof, the situation appears irregular and worth raising as a formal issue.  

Car1980

Ask Jackson Yamba at Contestor. He'll also give you a quote. He's quite adept at getting costs from the other side.

It's still on the small claims track so will not attract massive fees. It's £142 to appeal. 

Coupon-mad

Duke1999 said:

I would not feel comfortable placing myself in a position where I could potentially lose tens of thousands. 

Tens of thousands?! What made you think that? Impossible.

Duke1999

How much roughly do you think Jackson Yamba would charge to deal with this and how much could the costs reach? And what's the possibility of any of this moving beyond the small claims track

Duke1999

Approximately how much might Jackson Yamba charge to handle this, what could the total costs amount to, and what are the chances of the matter progressing beyond the small claims track?

Coupon-mad

We don't know. Ask.

CL are not cheap but they do appeals quite a lot so you need to ask and decide.

An appealed case is still in the small clams track. You'd only be seeking permission to appeal to the local Circuit Judge so costs are not high.

It's not the High Court or anything!

A few hundred to apply but then CL's costs on top (they'd try to get it all back). There is always litigation risk but the costs cannot explode in this track unless you act 'wholly unreasonably', which you aren't.