Penalty for Cigarette butt

IvanOpinion

Not often you hear of a council employee being vigilant and doing their job properly - well done that man/woman/they.

RefluentBeans

IvanOpinion said:

Not often you hear of a council employee being vigilant and doing their job properly - well done that man/woman/they.

Seems to be a big push recently for councils to fight littering and fly tipping. Think some new money has been given to help fight the issue - now if the government can regulate water companies to stop contamination of the drinking water we’ll be singing! 

Grumpy_chap

RefluentBeans said:

if the government can regulate water companies to stop contamination of the drinking water we’ll be singing! 

That regulation is already in place.
I think the PM had it in mind when he announced the GE - "singing in the rain"?

MeteredOut

IvanOpinion said:

Not often you hear of a council employee being vigilant and doing their job properly - well done that man/woman/they.

They're often not council employees, but outsourced, and potentially have targets. Hence them actually being vigilant

HillStreetBlues

Grumpy_chap said:

RefluentBeans said:

if the government can regulate water companies to stop contamination of the drinking water we’ll be singing! 

That regulation is already in place.
I think the PM had it in mind when he announced the GE - "singing in the rain"?

Can you do that with a broken record?

ripplyuk

OP, do you mean that she dropped the cigarette to extinguish it, then picked it up and was walking towards the bin when this happened? Your wording seems to imply that she walked away after dropping it but if that’s not the case then I think she should challenge it. The last thing we need is to be encouraging smokers to throw lit cigarettes into bins for fear of getting a FPN. 

HillStreetBlues

ripplyuk said:

OP, do you mean that she dropped the cigarette to extinguish it, then picked it up and was walking towards the bin when this happened? Your wording seems to imply that she walked away after dropping it but if that’s not the case then I think she should challenge it. The last thing we need is to be encouraging smokers to throw lit cigarettes into bins for fear of getting a FPN. 

Or use a portable ashtray.

RefluentBeans

HillStreetBlues said:

ripplyuk said:

OP, do you mean that she dropped the cigarette to extinguish it, then picked it up and was walking towards the bin when this happened? Your wording seems to imply that she walked away after dropping it but if that’s not the case then I think she should challenge it. The last thing we need is to be encouraging smokers to throw lit cigarettes into bins for fear of getting a FPN. 

Or use a portable ashtray.

Or put it using the facilities provided! Almost every bin in a smoking area has a metal piece to stub out butts. I’d say most bins in city centres do too. The only ones that won’t (unsurprisingly) are indoor public areas - where it’s been illegal to smoke. 

Smokers - do you find it annoying that throughout the streets now we have disposable vapes laying in gulleys and drains? But what are these vapers supposed to do?! When they run out of nicotine it’s simply impossible to carry it to a bun, right? This is the flawed logic of smokers who get caught littering - not enough bins, bins are full. Same thing as drivers who get caught doing 80 in a country lane ‘because it’s empty and I’ve never had any issues’. Just obey the law. If you think the law is unjust, then please get caught and see if you can convince a judge of your well argued position on how littering laws shouldn’t apply to smokers because…. 

born_again

Same as others do. Hold onto it till you are able to dispose of it in a safe & legal way.