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  • Danien
    Danien Posts: 247 Forumite
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    edited 26 May 2024 at 1:13PM
    There may be a valid reason the landlord visited so many times, maybe asked to come round by tenant for something. However as a landlord - stay out of it.
    So did she ask him to come round, inspect the bedrooms and comment on the way she lives her life and raises her children?

    I've rented most of my life, and never needed the landlord to look round the bedrooms two weeks running or twice in a week or monitor my movements. How does he know when she goes in and out, is he watching her?

    Were I the tenant I would be very disturbed. And having read the previous thread, I don’t believe tenants spend their own money to change all locks without very good cause. I only did it once with an awful slum lord who used his keys to come into my room whenever he wanted and then retaliated when I changed the locks by turning the electricity off to the attic (my room), assuming that I wouldn't know how to turn it back on (he was wrong). 
  • bunnygo
    bunnygo Posts: 160 Forumite
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    not your business unless it is damaging the house. My tenants have far too much stuff and you can hardly move in the place. That's how they want to live - they pay the rent, let me know when there is a problem and that's all I ask.
  • EnPointe
    EnPointe Posts: 821 Forumite
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    edited 28 May 2024 at 10:20PM
    start behaving like a  professional  and  not like  someone who sees  their business premises as their home 

    unless damage is being caused  this is overstepping the  Quiet Enjoyment of your tenant 
  • BungalowBel
    BungalowBel Posts: 364 Forumite
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    As a very recent ex-landlord I agree with others.  How your tenant lives is nothing to do with you unless she is damaging the fabric of the house or being cruel to her children.  She has a right to 'quiet enjoyment' of the property while she is paying rent to live there.

    Stop monitoring so closely.
  • Old_Git
    Old_Git Posts: 4,751 Forumite
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    edited 1 June 2024 at 6:17PM
    It’s not a weekly visit or anything like it . 
    I went to pick up two electric sockets that the tenant mislaid and I had to replace . 
    When I was there I noticed 3 things that had to be repaired . I returned a few days later with tradesman to do work . 
    I returned the following day as something that was siliconed had to dry and he hung up . 
    On that visit I noticed a broken Handle on the bathroom door . 
    I returned a few days later to replace the handle . 
    So I don’t visit every week but tenant doesn’t tell me about repairs . 
    For people who have read my old posts about the tenant changing locks , it’s not the same tenant or house . The house with changed locks I haven’t been in from last summer . 
    "Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many"
  • T.T.D
    T.T.D Posts: 260 Forumite
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    edited 1 June 2024 at 6:59PM
    Old_Git said:
    It’s not a weekly visit or anything like it . 
    I went to pick up two electric sockets that the tenant mislaid and I had to replace . 
    When I was there I noticed 3 things that had to be repaired . I returned a few days later with tradesman to do work . 
    I returned the following day as something that was siliconed had to dry and he hung up . 
    On that visit I noticed a broken Handle on the bathroom door . 
    I returned a few days later to replace the handle . 
    So I don’t visit every week but tenant doesn’t tell me about repairs . 
    For people who have read my old posts about the tenant changing locks , it’s not the same tenant or house . The house with changed locks I haven’t been in from last summer . 
    Ok so here’s a gauge.

    let her be as messy as she wants UNTILL:
    There is damage to the fabric of the property. Internal door frames, sockets, lights, electrical circuits, carpeting or other flooring or sub flooring like floor boards, kitchen cupboards being damaged. 

    What does your tenancy contract say? If she should report repairs as and when they happen then you can tell her, “it’s part of your tenancy to report repairs to us, please moving forward on in the future report these as and when they happen” 

    If its hoarder level mess then yes it should addressed but if it’s just not to your standard then just leave it. Just respect she has a right to peaceful enjoyement of her own messy standards. . 
     
  • Danien
    Danien Posts: 247 Forumite
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    It sounds to me like you are looking for excuses to keep going back. Your whole attitude is totally creepy. Stay away from her unless for an official (as per contract) property check, or if she reports a repair.

    I wouldn't report minor repairs that were livable with to my creepy slum lord because I did not want to give him any excuse to be in my home

    You come across as overly obsessed with her.
  • T.T.D
    T.T.D Posts: 260 Forumite
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    edited 2 June 2024 at 5:35PM
    Danien said:
    It sounds to me like you are looking for excuses to keep going back. Your whole attitude is totally creepy. Stay away from her unless for an official (as per contract) property check, or if she reports a repair.

    I wouldn't report minor repairs that were livable with to my creepy slum lord because I did not want to give him any excuse to be in my home

    You come across as overly obsessed with her.
    You don’t know what certain councils and social landlords are like then, I’ve had a social landlord come 6 times for an assessment of attic insulation and still got no resolution. 

    I agree the landlord has not come across well but I see a hint of English being a second language and not their main spoken language, there may well be cultural differences to take into account.

    I don’t see evidence of the OP being a slumlord, I’ve tried to keep a neutral mind and not just jump to judgment.

    He seems keen to keep the house in a good order for his tenant, repairing as he finds issues, which most social landlords book in separately each job (even when reported all in one go) and attend on different days not in one, so why is this different for this landlord who found issues as he was back and forth repairing things when he spotted them? 

    Why are you and others keep pushing this “slumlord obsessed with his tenant” angle and just want cause offence to the OP?
  • Grumpy_chap
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    Old_Git said:

    Should I ignore it . 

    Yes.
    None of the things you mentioned sound like they are any of your business.
  • Danien
    Danien Posts: 247 Forumite
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    T.T.D said:
    Danien said:
    It sounds to me like you are looking for excuses to keep going back. Your whole attitude is totally creepy. Stay away from her unless for an official (as per contract) property check, or if she reports a repair.

    I wouldn't report minor repairs that were livable with to my creepy slum lord because I did not want to give him any excuse to be in my home

    You come across as overly obsessed with her.
    You don’t know what certain councils and social landlords are like then, I’ve had a social landlord come 6 times for an assessment of attic insulation and still got no resolution. 

    I agree the landlord has not come across well but I see a hint of English being a second language and not their main spoken language, there may well be cultural differences to take into account.

    I don’t see evidence of the OP being a slumlord, I’ve tried to keep a neutral mind and not just jump to judgment.

    He seems keen to keep the house in a good order for his tenant, repairing as he finds issues, which most social landlords book in separately each job (even when reported all in one go) and attend on different days not in one, so why is this different for this landlord who found issues as he was back and forth repairing things when he spotted them? 

    Why are you and others keep pushing this “slumlord obsessed with his tenant” angle and just want cause offence to the OP?
    You're reading some things into my posts that aren't actually said.

    I've had issues with housing association repairs where it took months to get a leak fixed - but the plumber wasn't coming round every day and looking for other things to fix, assessing the way we lived and posting their concerns on social media. Except for not finding the source of rhe leak they acted professionally. A supervisor eventually found the leak from pipes in the concrete floor.

    I don't get impression of English as second language and not sure even how that effects the actual behaviour and attitudes.

    I wasn't accusing the guy of being a slumlord, I was saying I had a landlord who was a slumlord who acted in a bad way. He had 20+ HMO's all in awful repair and used threats and intimidation on tenants as well as some totally disgusting and gross behaviour I won't go into. His idea of sorting out a wasps nest that had broken through into my room, resulting in wasps constantly flying around and stinging me was to send out another tenant with learning difficulties with a can of oven cleaner out onto the sloping roof to spray the nest. He threatened me severely if I tried to get council pest control involved (he didn'twant council employees anyway near his properties. I was young and scared and a woman living alone,  and I eventually had to involve the police and move elsewhere at additional cost. But that isn't the issue here.

    No one has suggested he is a slumlord - as I said only I referred to my previous landlord as a slumlord giving an example of bad behaviour by him.

    Yes, I do worry if he is obsessed with his tenant, and posited this as a possibility. Sometimes people don't realise how their behaviour comes across to others. To some here and possibly the tenant themselves his behaviour may appear creepy and out of line while he may be thinking he is just being an attentive landlord. But taken together with the other thread where another tenant felt it necessary to change the locks, combined with unprofessional concerns over the way the tenant lives and their parenting, it does become suggestive of a pattern of unwanted attitudes and behaviour in a landlord.
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