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Parking fine for private parking Not the driver but registered keeper

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Hi All

Please I need some help here - I filled my AOS 5 days ago and I am now in the process of writing and submitting my defence. 

I got a parking ticket as the registered keeper, I was not the driver at the time and I can not recollect seeing any letters. can my ultimate defence just be that I was not the driver?

I am looking to add the paragraphs below.

2 .It is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question but liability is denied. 
The vehicle with registration mark XXX insured with Admiral with 2 named drivers permitted to use it.
It is denied that the Defendant was the driver of the vehicle. The Claimant is put to strict proof.

3.1. The Claimant has provided no evidence that the Defendant was the driver. The Defendant avers that the Claimant is therefore limited to pursuing the Defendant in these proceedings under the provisions set out by statute in the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("POFA")
3.2. Before seeking to rely on the keeper liability provisions of Schedule 4 POFA the Claimant must demonstrate that:
3.2.1. there was a ‘relevant obligation’ either by way of a breach of contract, trespass or other tort; and
3.2.2. that it has followed the required deadlines and wording as described in the Act to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
It is not admitted that the Claimant has complied with the relevant statutory requirements.


 many thanks
for your help
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  • DE_612183
    DE_612183 Posts: 1,965 Forumite
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    Was the PCN POFA compliant or not?

    Can you post a redacted version of the PCN.

    Also have you complained to the landowner?
  • jaykodi
    jaykodi Posts: 20 Forumite
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    DE_612183 said:
    Was the PCN POFA compliant or not?

    Can you post a redacted version of the PCN.

    Also have you complained to the landowner?
    Thanks for your reply
    i do not have the PCN and can not remember seeing any to be honest. I have sent a complaint to the landowner but no response hence my defence 
  • DE_612183
    DE_612183 Posts: 1,965 Forumite
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    The legal company mus say who they are representing - therefore you send a DSAR to the parking company so you can see whats alleged.
  • jaykodi
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    DE_612183 said:
    The legal company mus say who they are representing - therefore you send a DSAR to the parking company so you can see whats alleged.
    DE_612183 said:
    The legal company mus say who they are representing - therefore you send a DSAR to the parking company so you can see whats alleged.
    Thanks for your reply- that might be late now as I am already filling my defence 
  • DE_612183
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    jaykodi said:
    DE_612183 said:
    The legal company mus say who they are representing - therefore you send a DSAR to the parking company so you can see whats alleged.
    DE_612183 said:
    The legal company mus say who they are representing - therefore you send a DSAR to the parking company so you can see whats alleged.
    Thanks for your reply- that might be late now as I am already filling my defence 
    How can you defend something you don't know the details of?

    They will have in their pack all the details of letters sent and the pcn etc.
  • LDast
    LDast Posts: 264 Forumite
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    Please show us the PoC. Which PPC? Which roboclaim solicitors (if any) are they using? What is the "Issue date" on the claim? On what date did you file the AoS?

    There is so little to go on in your post. Whilst you were not the driver, if the NtK was PoFA compliant, the creditor can transfer liability for the dent to you, the RK. Without seeing the NtK, it is difficult to advise.

    Whilst a SAR would compel the PPC to provide you with a copy of the original NtK, they have 30 days to do so which is going to be too late for your defence submission. However, reference to it, would allow you to raise it in your WS later.

    Are you using the template defence? From what you have shown us so far, it is not clear. You must use the whole template and only show us the bits you are adding/editing.
  • jaykodi
    jaykodi Posts: 20 Forumite
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    LDast said:
    Please show us the PoC. Which PPC? Which roboclaim solicitors (if any) are they using? What is the "Issue date" on the claim? On what date did you file the AoS?

    There is so little to go on in your post. Whilst you were not the driver, if the NtK was PoFA compliant, the creditor can transfer liability for the dent to you, the RK. Without seeing the NtK, it is difficult to advise.

    Whilst a SAR would compel the PPC to provide you with a copy of the original NtK, they have 30 days to do so which is going to be too late for your defence submission. However, reference to it, would allow you to raise it in your WS later.

    Are you using the template defence? From what you have shown us so far, it is not clear. You must use the whole template and only show us the bits you are adding/editing.
    Claimant:

    CP Plus LTD T/A Group Nexus
    Jack Straws Castle

    Address for sending docs and payments:

    DCB Legal LTD

    Issue Date: 20 April 2024


    POC:

    1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant parking charge issued to vehicle ********* buzz bingo.
    2. The PCN was issued on **/04/2023
    3. The defendant is pursued as the driver of this vehicle for breach of the terms on the sign (the contract). Reason: Vehicle remained on private property in breach of prominently displayed terms and conditions.
    4. In the alternative the defendant is pursued as the keeper pursuant to POFA 2023, Schedule 4.
    AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS
    1. £170 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages.
    2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the county courts act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of £.02 until judgemetn or sooner payment
    3. Costs and court fees


    Signed Ellen O'Donnell



    Amount claimed: £178
    Court fees: £35.00
    Legal rep. costs: £50.00
    Total amount: £263

    the AOS was filed on the 6th May
    I do not have the Ntk - and Yes I am using the template defence. I was not the driver at the time and my partner thinks she  probably was the driver.

    I am not sure how to word the paragraph 4 defense in this regard.

    Thanks for all your help
  • KeithP
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    That 'reason' - "Reason: Vehicle remained on private property in breach of prominently displayed terms and conditions" - simply isn't good enough.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 20th April, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Thursday 23rd May 2024 to file your Defence.

    That's a little over a week away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
  • jaykodi
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    Is this defence okay? other than the fact that I was not the driver I am unsure what else to add as defence


    IN THE COUNTY COURT

    Claim No.:  xxxxxx

    Between

    Group nexus LTD

    (Claimant) 

    - and -  

    XXXXXXXX                        

     (Defendant)

    _________________

    DEFENCE


    1.  The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that any conduct by the driver was in breach of any term.  Further, it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as agents) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the boilerplate text in the Particulars of Claim ('the POC').

    Preliminary matter: The claim should be struck out

    2. The Defendant draws to the attention of the allocating Judge that there is now a persuasive Appeal judgment to support striking out the claim (in these exact circumstances of typically poorly pleaded private parking claims, and the extant PoC seen here are far worse than the one seen on Appeal).  The Defendant believes that dismissing this meritless claim is the correct course, with the Overriding Objective in mind.  Bulk litigators (legal firms) should know better than to make little or no attempt to comply with the Practice Direction.  By continuing to plead cases with generic auto-fill unspecific wording, private parking firms should not be surprised when courts strike out their claims based in the following persuasive authority.

    3. A recent persuasive appeal judgment in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) would indicate the POC fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. On the 15th August 2023, in the cited case, HHJ Murch held that 'the particulars of the claim as filed and served did not set out the conduct which amounted to the breach in reliance upon which the claimant would be able to bring a claim for breach of contract'. The same is true in this case and in view of the Chan judgment (transcript below) the Court should strike out the claim, using its powers pursuant to CPR 3.4. 





    The facts known to the Defendant:

    4. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper but was not the driver.

    5. The Claimant will concede that no financial loss has arisen and that in order to impose an inflated parking charge, as well as proving a term was breached, there must be:

    (i). a strong 'legitimate interest' extending beyond mere compensation for loss, and

    (Ii). 'adequate notice' of the 'penalty clause' charge which, in the case of a car park, requires prominent signs and lines.

    6. The Defendant denies (i) or (ii) have been met. The charge imposed, in all the circumstances is a penalty, not saved by ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC67 ('the Beavis case'), which is fully distinguished.


    Exaggerated Claim and 'market failure' currently being addressed by UK Government

    7. The alleged 'core debt' from any parking charge cannot exceed £100 (the industry cap).  It is denied that any 'Debt Fees' or damages were actually paid or incurred.

    8. This claim is unfair and inflated and it is denied that any sum is due in debt or damages. This Claimant routinely pursues an unconscionable fixed sum added per PCN, despite knowing that the will of Parliament is to ban it.

    9. This is a classic example where adding exaggerated fees funds bulk litigation of weak and/or archive parking cases. No checks and balances are likely to have been made to ensure facts, merit or a cause of action (given away by the woefully inadequate POC).

    10. The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities ('the DLUHC') published a statutory Parking Code of Practice in February 2022: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/private-parking-code-of-practice.

    The Ministerial Foreword is damning: "Private firms issue roughly 22,000 parking tickets every day, often adopting a labyrinthine system of misleading and confusing signage, opaque appeals services, aggressive debt collection and unreasonable fees designed to extort money from motorists." 

    11. Despite legal challenges delaying the Code (temporarily withdrawn) it is now 'live' after a draft Impact Assessment (IA) was published on 30th July 2023. The Government's analysis is found here:  https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1171438/Draft_IA_-_Private_Parking_Code_of_Practice_.pdf

    12. Paragraphs 4.31 and 5.19 state that the parking industry has shown the DLUHC that the true minor cost of pre-action stage totals a mere £8.42 per case (not per PCN).

    13. This claim has been enhanced by a disproportionate sum, believed to enrich the litigating legal team. It appears to be double recovery, duplicating the intended 'legal fees' cap set by small claims track rules.

    14. The draft IA shows that the intimidating letter-chains endured by Defendants cost 'eight times less' than the  fixed +£70 per PCN. This causes immense consumer harm in the form of some half a million wrongly-enhanced CCJs each year, that Judges are powerless to prevent.  MoJ statistics reveal several hundred thousand parking claims per annum, with c90% causing default CCJs totalling hundreds of millions of pounds. The false fee was enabled by the self-serving Codes of Practice of the rival parking Trade Bodies who aligned in 2021 to allow +£70, each led by a Board comprising the parking and debt firms who stood to gain from it. 

    15. It is denied that the added damages/fee sought was incurred or is recoverable. Attention is drawn to paras 98, 100, 193, 198 of Beavis.  Also ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd ChD [2011] EWHC 4023(QB) where the parking charge was £75, discounted to £37.50 for prompt payment.  Whilst £75 was reasonable, HHJ Hegarty (decision ratified by the CoA) held in paras 419-428 that 'admin costs' inflating a PCN to £135 exaggerated the cost of template letters and 'would appear to be penal'.

    16. This Claimant has not incurred costs. A PCN model already includes what the Supreme Court called an 'automated letter-chain' and it generates a healthy profit. In Beavis, there were 4 pre-action letters/reminders and £85 was held to more than cover the minor costs of the operation (NB: debt collectors charge nothing in failed collection cases).

    17. Whilst the new Code is not retrospective, all non-monetary clauses went unchallenged. It will replace the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes, which are not regulation and carry limited weight.  It is surely a clear steer for the Courts that the DLUHC said in 2023 that it is addressing 'market failure'.

    18. At last, the DLUHC's analysis overrides plainly wrong findings by Circuit Judges steered by Counsel in weak appeal cases that the parking industry steamrollered through. In Vehicle Control Services v Percy, HHJ Saffman took a diametrically opposed position to that taken by DJ Hickinbottom, DJ Jackson (as Her Honour Judge Jackson then was), and other District Judges on the North Eastern Circuit, including DJ Skalskyj-Reynolds and DJ Wright (Skipton) all of whom have consistently dismissed extortionate added 'fees/damages'. District Judges deal with private parking claims on a daily basis, whereas cases of this nature come before Circuit Judges infrequently. The Judgments of HHJ Parkes in Britannia v Semark-Jullien, and HHJ Simpkiss in One Parking Solution v Wilshaw were flawed. These supposedly persuasive judgments included a universal failure to consider the court's duty under s71 of the CRA 2015 and factual errors. In Wilshaw: a badly outdated reliance on 'ticket cases' which allowed poor signage to escape fair scrutiny and a wrong presumption that landowner authority 'is not required' (DVLA rules make it mandatory). In Percy, HHJ Saffman made an incorrect assumption about pre-action costs and even sought out the wrong Code of Practice of his own volition after the hearing, and used it to inform his judgment.

    19. In addition, pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper. The Claimant is put to strict proof of POFA compliance if seeking 'keeper liability'.

    120. The Defendant avers that there was no agreement to pay a parking charge or added 'damages' which were not even incurred, let alone quantified in bold, prominent text. This Claimant's lack of large, readable signs are nothing like the yellow & black warnings seen in Beavis, nor do they meet the signage requirements in the DLUHC Code which reflects the already statutory requirement for 'prominence' (Consumer Rights Act 2015 - the 'CRA').

    CRA breaches

    21. Section 71 CRA creates a statutory duty upon Courts to consider the test of fairness whether a party raises it or not. Further, claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3):

     https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/450440/Unfair_Terms_Main_Guidance.pdf

    22. The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both terms and 'consumer notices'.  In a parking context, this includes a test of fairness and clarity of 'signs & lines' and all communications (written or otherwise). Signs must be prominent (lit in hours of darkness/dusk) and all terms must be unambiguous and contractual obligations clear.

    23.  The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the duties of fair/open dealing and good faith (NB: this does not necessarily mean there has to be a finding of bad faith).  

    ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished

    24.  Unlike in Beavis, the penalty rule remains engaged. The CRA covers disproportionate sums, which are not exempt from being assessed for fairness because a 'fee' is not the core price term and neither was it prominently proclaimed on the signs.  

    25. The Supreme Court held that deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from alleged breach.  The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms or cumbersome obligations ('concealed pitfalls or traps').  This Claimant has failed those tests, with small signs, hidden terms and minuscule small print that is incapable of binding a driver. Court of Appeal authorities about a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge include:

    (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (Lord Denning's ‘red hand rule’) and

    (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2,

    both leading authorities that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and

    (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space''. 

    26.  Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the DLUHC Code and these clauses are supported by the BPA & IPC. In the official publication 'Parking Review' the IPC's CEO observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t." 

    Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR

    27. DVLA data is only supplied if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority to form contracts at this site in their name. The Claimant is put to strict proof of their standing to litigate.

    28. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The DLUHC Code shows that genuine disputes such as this should see PCNs cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject most disputes: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (ref: Annual Report).  This consumer blame culture and reliance upon their own 'appeals service' (described by MPs as a kangaroo court and about to be replaced by the Government) should satisfy Judges that a fair appeal was never on offer.

    Conclusion

    29. There is now evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims that are causing consumer harm.  The July 2023 DLUHC IA analysis shows that the usual letter-chain costs eight times less than the sum claimed for it.  The claim is entirely without merit and the POC embarrassing.  The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that poorly pleaded claims like this should be struck out.

    30. In the matter of costs, the Defendant seeks:

    (a) standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and

    (b) a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, and further costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 

    31.  Attention is drawn to the (often-seen) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not 'normally' apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))."   


    Statement of Truth

    I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

    Signature:

    Date:

  • LDast
    LDast Posts: 264 Forumite
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    You are very fortunate that this is a claim filed through DCB Legal. The template defence you use must include the "Preliminary matter" of the CEL v Chan appeal judgment and the embedded transcript before the "Facts known to the defendant" section, as can be seen here:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80387013/#Comment_80387013

    For your para #4 in the above example defence, you would only need to change the last bit to:

    "...and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper but was not the driver."

    As you know you were not the driver but are aware of the parking event, for your para #5 you should just stay the facts that are known to you along the lines of:

    "The driver parked at the location because..." Just stay that they were a customer/visiting etc. No need to elaborate anything at this stage. No need to go on about there being two names on the insurance. Anyone, with the owners permission can drive any car as long as their own insurance covers them for third party liability.

    As long as you use the template correctly and just add/edit your own bit for paras #4 and #5, you can guarantee that it will eventually be discontinued and you will see your username in lights in the AOBTD thread. here:

    DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

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