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Motability car - for the benefit of the diabled person?

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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 28,023 Forumite
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    My daughter is 17 and as such insurance is really high.  She is pretty much a homebody and doesn't go anywhere but he is wanting to get the car so she can visit him in his village 15 miles away.  I think that this is for his benefit as he wants to see her but isn't as she is unable to use public transport.   My daughter receives PIP standard rate as she has her own issues
    Presumably she will have to be put on the insurance as a named driver, so that will bump up the insurance anyway.
    From what you have said, it seems like he might be better off keeping the monthly payments and using taxis/public transport.
  • marcia_
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     Her visiting him even if it's beneficial for him is not why the scheme exists. 

     He could keep the mobility component and pay for her taxis to visit as others have said. That would be much cheaper and give him more money. 
  • baser999
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    He has mental health issues and seeing her has a positive influence on his mood
    That may well be the case but I suspect that the driver might need to live with the person who’s claiming? Couple of links in earlier post might clarify 
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    My daughter is 17 and as such insurance is really high.  She is pretty much a homebody and doesn't go anywhere but he is wanting to get the car so she can visit him in his village 15 miles away.  I think that this is for his benefit as he wants to see her but isn't as she is unable to use public transport.   My daughter receives PIP standard rate as she has her own issues
    Regardless of whether this scenario would count as solely for his benefit (I can see your reasoning but I'm not Motability, obviously), as said in a previous post a driver under 21 has to live at the same address. 
    [Also under 21s have to have a full licence unless the car is for them, just so you know if she is still a learner.]

    "You can only have one driver under 21. This could be the disabled person or another driver living at the same address."

    https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/named-drivers/
    https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/provisional-licences-and-learners/
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,353 Forumite
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    baser999 said:
    He has mental health issues and seeing her has a positive influence on his mood
    That may well be the case but I suspect that the driver might need to live with the person who’s claiming? Couple of links in earlier post might clarify 
    The driver doesn't need to live with the person claiming (a friend has an adult child who cannot drive but has a motability car which is driven by care staff). 

    However this post
    My daughter is 17 and as such insurance is really high.  She is pretty much a homebody and doesn't go anywhere but he is wanting to get the car so she can visit him in his village 15 miles away.  I think that this is for his benefit as he wants to see her but isn't as she is unable to use public transport.   My daughter receives PIP standard rate as she has her own issues
    Regardless of whether this scenario would count as solely for his benefit (I can see your reasoning but I'm not Motability, obviously), as said in a previous post a driver under 21 has to live at the same address. 
    [Also under 21s have to have a full licence unless the car is for them, just so you know if she is still a learner.]

    "You can only have one driver under 21. This could be the disabled person or another driver living at the same address."

    https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/named-drivers/
    https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/provisional-licences-and-learners/
    rules out the particular situation being discussed here. 

    I agree that Dad paying for taxis to visit him sounds like a more sensible option all round. If she would struggle to do this, it may be worth looking around for a company which would set up a regular arrangement with a particular driver. Or maybe Dad needs to visit her to begin with. 

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  • born_again
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    My daughter is 17 and as such insurance is really high.  She is pretty much a homebody and doesn't go anywhere but he is wanting to get the car so she can visit him in his village 15 miles away.  I think that this is for his benefit as he wants to see her but isn't as she is unable to use public transport.   My daughter receives PIP standard rate as she has her own issues
    Presumably she will have to be put on the insurance as a named driver, so that will bump up the insurance anyway.
    From what you have said, it seems like he might be better off keeping the monthly payments and using taxis/public transport.
    She would need to be down as the main driver.
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  • poppy12345
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    He has mental health issues and seeing her has a positive influence on his mood
    I have to agree with others and even though he has mental health issues it does sound like it’s more for her than him. You said yourself that she’s unable to use pu loc transport. Ultimately though it will be down to motability to decide whether they would allow this or not. 
  • Crazydennie
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    For clarity.  My daughter has a full license I taught her as I could see it as the only way she would be mobile.  Application is currently going through checks and I will let you know the outcome.  The initial application indicated that she was eligible after the system checked her license with the DVLA. It did show her address as being different from his but if she has to be at the same address the application will fail.

    He is not allowed at my house due to previous difficulties with getting him to leave so the only option is for her to visit him.  My daughter is being assessed for autism and will not travel in a car with someone she does not know due to anxiety so taxis, trains and buses for her are not an option.  

    We expect them to fit a tracker and the car is for his benefit.  He has many medical issues and lots of GP and hospital appointments she will be taking him shopping weekly too.  My daughter currently leaves the house once a week to go shopping with me.  College failed as she was unable to use public transport and we see this as a way to get her out the house while helping her dad.  
    I'm Ever hopeful!
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  • Crazydennie
    Crazydennie Posts: 257 Forumite
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    You have not actually said, but presumably he gets the higher rate of mobility allowance and he currently gets this as a payment each month.

    FYI he has an indefinite award and gets enhanced for both.
    I'm Ever hopeful!
    :j:j:j:j
  • marcia_
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    For clarity.  My daughter has a full license I taught her as I could see it as the only way she would be mobile.  Application is currently going through checks and I will let you know the outcome.  The initial application indicated that she was eligible after the system checked her license with the DVLA. It did show her address as being different from his but if she has to be at the same address the application will fail.

    He is not allowed at my house due to previous difficulties with getting him to leave so the only option is for her to visit him.  My daughter is being assessed for autism and will not travel in a car with someone she does not know due to anxiety so taxis, trains and buses for her are not an option.  

    We expect them to fit a tracker and the car is for his benefit.  He has many medical issues and lots of GP and hospital appointments she will be taking him shopping weekly too.  My daughter currently leaves the house once a week to go shopping with me.  College failed as she was unable to use public transport and we see this as a way to get her out the house while helping her dad.  
     But this isn't the reason mobility payments or motability is given. 

     If your daughter has medical conditions she should apply for PIP and get her own motability car 
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