Parking Control Management N1SDT

90Ninety

Hello helpful Netizens 

 
Sorry for the long story . I will try keep it to the point 

So short story  a N1SDT ( issue date 3rd of May 2024) has gone to the owner of a vehicle, that I used .. The previous PCN originally issued on the window screen on the 2/10/2023 were ignored, due to the distaste I had for this shameful cowboy company   .   I am wondering the next step .. 

I have successfully won PCN by appeals before from eurocar parks and parking eye ( several times thanks to souls on  these forums ) Though I haven't been to court over one yet .. Though this will be a learning experience for me, I will happily go to court , just for the extra wisdom garnered 


Long story ,the registered keeper ( my mum ) has been sent a N1SDT by Civil National Business Centre in Northampton 
Particulars of claim: 
"The driver of vehicle reg FLXXXX ( the vehicle) parked in breach of terms stipulated on signage , thus incurring the PCN"
This is due to me ( named driver) parking during a visit to a friend's leased apartment, within her allocated space (included in the lease)  .. A replacement permit had been applied several days before the original ticket but there had been a several day delay, though I was told by said friend that I could park there, while waiting .  It was only a quick visit to pick up a few items anyhow .. 

After getting the original ticket , my friend had complained to the landlord , the landlord basically said to ignore it , or words to that affect .. I had previously ignored Charge notices without much bother ..  The permit didn't actually arrive until a few weeks after the PCN 

Do I go back to landlord with this , ask them for details on the parking contract he/she may have ? 

Or do I simply acknowledge then defend it , build a case based of the fact that this was a resident's bay and a parking permit was paid and applied for ? 

TIA 

KeithP

What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

90Ninety

KeithP said:

What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

 Claim date 3/5/2024 (just added to original post)

KeithP

Your mother now needs to defend herself against the claim.

Please show us the contents of the Particulars of Claim box with personal detail hidden.

Coupon-mad

Or do I simply acknowledge then defend it , build a case based of the fact that this was a resident's bay and a parking permit was paid and applied for ? 

If you are not the Defendant then YOU can't do any of the above. The keeper is the Defendant.

KeithP

90Ninety said:

KeithP said:

What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

 Claim date 3/5/2024 (just added to original post)

With a Claim Issue Date of 3rd May, your mother has until Wednesday 22nd May to file an Acknowledgment of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 

To file an Acknowledgment of Service, she should follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, your mother has until 4pm on Wednesday 5th June 2024 to file her Defence.

That's four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service guidance.

Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

90Ninety

Can we clarify if the N1SDT is a LBC or has this stage passed ? 

If this stage has passed , then there is no point in complaining to the landowner? 

KeithP

90Ninety said:

Can we clarify if the N1SDT is a LBC or has this stage passed ? 

Yes, we can clarify that.
Having received a Claim Form you are past the Letter Before Claim (LBC) stage.
As the name implies, a Letter Before Claim comes before a Claim.

You mother now needs to defend herself along the lines I posted last Wednesday.
As I wrote then...
      "Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence".

90Ninety said:

If this stage has passed , then there is no point in complaining to the landowner? 

A complaint to the landowner can always be useful. You may never know how much clout they have and the more complaints they get then the more likely they will get fed up and may even kick out the parking company.

90Ninety

This is a complete mess 

I had to create a GOV.ID for my mum ( shes computer phobic/illiterate)  , but I was not able  to use the claim number 

I had previously asked the resident ( my friend .. not sure for how long now )  to find out whom the landowner is and complain , so I gave her the letter.. 

Unfortunately unbeknown to me , she decided to login to the moneyclaim website ( no idea why , I think she wanted to pay out of guilt) ,  which has caused a problem .. I had to then log in as her , then change the gov ID and MCOL   details from her name to my mum's ( I will be processing on mum's behalf) 


I then did the  'acknowledge of service'   and now I do have a MCOL number

Though now it seems I cannot log back into the MCOL or Gov.ID.. due to the email being used on two  GOV ID's   ( Its recommended to contact MoJ for recovery .... Just great :S

Do I need to log back in to the MCOL or can just leave it now?

KeithP

I did write earlier... 
     "Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'"

In other words, there is no need to access MCOL, but you won't be able to track the Claim through the CNBC.
No big deal.

90Ninety

KeithP said:

Your mother now needs to defend herself against the claim.

Please show us the contents of the Particulars of Claim box with personal detail hidden.

As shown below