Measuring up?

FlyMeSomewhere79

Just to clarify my issue is with the suggestion that this is done on the day of exchange when everyone is up to their neck preparing to move imminently! Why would anyone risk causing such disruption to exchange day! As I think I said earlier, we were packed up and ready to go with the exchange happening on the Friday afternoon and furniture trucks due to arrive Monday morning - that is too late in the day to jeopardise the exchange taking place and completion day potentially falling apart also.

View the house a few weeks or a month before completion day, normal people know nothing is going to change in that time! If the house is perfect still at that point then there's no need to be silly about it! I don't understand people on here talking about piles of rubble! Has anyone ever bought a house that's been knocked down to rubble since they last saw it without telling them! Do you think the law is really that silly that anyone would be allowed to sell you a house and then demolish it! What do you think contracts are there for!

As others have said, people demanding to impose on exchange come across as suspicious and looking to pull a last minute stunt to hold a vendor to ransom.

BarelySentientAI

FlyMeSomewhere79 said:

Just to clarify my issue is with the suggestion that this is done on the day of exchange when everyone is up to their neck preparing to move imminently! Why would anyone risk causing such disruption to exchange day! As I think I said earlier, we were packed up and ready to go with the exchange happening on the Friday afternoon and furniture trucks due to arrive Monday morning - that is too late in the day to jeopardise the exchange taking place and completion day potentially falling apart also.

That's only a problem if you've got exchange and completion so close together.  And there are plenty of other reasons why that isn't a good idea.  Why would you willingly exchange on Friday afternoon for completion Monday?

FlyMeSomewhere79 said:

View the house a few weeks or a month before completion day, normal people know nothing is going to change in that time! If the house is perfect still at that point then there's no need to be silly about it! I don't understand people on here talking about piles of rubble! Has anyone ever bought a house that's been knocked down to rubble since they last saw it without telling them! Do you think the law is really that silly that anyone would be allowed to sell you a house and then demolish it! What do you think contracts are there for!

You don't have a valid contract until exchange.  If someone did demolish the house after you viewed it but before exchange, then the contract is you agreeing to buy the pile of bricks.

FlyMeSomewhere79 said:

As others have said, people demanding to impose on exchange come across as suspicious and looking to pull a last minute stunt to hold a vendor to ransom.

I've never viewed on exchange or even close to it, but I at least recognised that it was a risk.  You appear to think that it isn't a risk based on some flawed assumptions.

TheJP

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

jonnydeppiwish!

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

TheJP

jonnydeppiwish! said:

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

You don't need 4 viewings to measure up! 1st viewing - offer - 2nd viewing measure up and then crack on. Also the measurements of the property are available so you can gauge dimensions. 

BarelySentientAI

TheJP said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

You don't need 4 viewings to measure up! 1st viewing - offer - 2nd viewing measure up and then crack on. Also the measurements of the property are available so you can gauge dimensions. 

1st viewing - is it worth my time.
2nd viewing - offer
3rd viewing with architect
4th viewing with builder
5th viewing with kitchen fitter
etc etc

You seem to be assuming that everyone only needs another viewing to see if their sofa fits.  I've never seen a house advert with the dimensions of each window listed.

TheJP

BarelySentientAI said:

TheJP said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

You don't need 4 viewings to measure up! 1st viewing - offer - 2nd viewing measure up and then crack on. Also the measurements of the property are available so you can gauge dimensions. 

1st viewing - is it worth my time. - Clearly at this stage it is otherwise why book a viewing.
2nd viewing - offer - Yes or offer at 1st viewing, depends on how much you like the property.
3rd viewing with architect - Why do you need an architect to measure up?
4th viewing with builder - As above...
5th viewing with kitchen fitter - Do this when you own the house...
etc etc

You seem to be assuming that everyone only needs another viewing to see if their sofa fits.  I've never seen a house advert with the dimensions of each window listed.

Everything you list above is irrelevant to measuring up, step 3 and below is what you do when you have bought the house. 

Not what I'm saying at all, the general meaning of measuring up is will my stuff fit and window blinds measuring etc. If you haven't done this in 2 viewings then what are you doing. 

If someone wants to buy my property but wants an extension or new kitchen that's great, but do that all when you own the property.

BarelySentientAI

TheJP said:

BarelySentientAI said:

TheJP said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

You don't need 4 viewings to measure up! 1st viewing - offer - 2nd viewing measure up and then crack on. Also the measurements of the property are available so you can gauge dimensions. 

1st viewing - is it worth my time. - Clearly at this stage it is otherwise why book a viewing.
2nd viewing - offer - Yes or offer at 1st viewing, depends on how much you like the property.
3rd viewing with architect - Why do you need an architect to measure up?
4th viewing with builder - As above...
5th viewing with kitchen fitter - Do this when you own the house...
etc etc

You seem to be assuming that everyone only needs another viewing to see if their sofa fits.  I've never seen a house advert with the dimensions of each window listed.

Everything you list above is irrelevant to measuring up, step 3 and below is what you do when you have bought the house. 

Not what I'm saying at all, the general meaning of measuring up is will my stuff fit and window blinds measuring etc. If you haven't done this in 2 viewings then what are you doing. 

If someone wants to buy my property but wants an extension or new kitchen that's great, but do that all when you own the property.

Your meaning of measuring up might be that, but it's an artificial restriction.  If I wanted to place an order for something with specific measurements, which could include carpets, a kitchen, a conservatory, an extension..., then the process of getting those measurements would be called measuring up.

Measure up : to discover what size something or someone is by measuring them.  

If the things I want to order have a long lead time, I might want to order them on the day of exchange so I don't have to have an empty house for any longer than necessary.  I'd want to have the measurements before that day, which would mean doing them on a viewing.

But hey, if you want to say to potential buyers "anything you don't find out in two visits must be done after buying", there's nothing to stop you.

TheJP

BarelySentientAI said:

TheJP said:

BarelySentientAI said:

TheJP said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

TheJP said:

This terminology does my head in..

If they haven't measured up by the 2nd viewing then what are they doing, you can walk in to a room and think yes or no my stuff will fit.

Measuring up just before exchange/completion is just petty, your furniture doesn't dictate if you want the house. 

But they may need to measure up for things that a business wasn’t able to do on a previous viewing. I’ve been in 4 times since offer, 3 of those in the last 2 weeks due to the sheer volume of work required. The property is vacant though, and I don’t intend to go back prior to exchange later this week.
i will, however, walk around the outside of the house on the morning of exchange just to be sure. I can’t afford a £500k mess up.

You don't need 4 viewings to measure up! 1st viewing - offer - 2nd viewing measure up and then crack on. Also the measurements of the property are available so you can gauge dimensions. 

1st viewing - is it worth my time. - Clearly at this stage it is otherwise why book a viewing.
2nd viewing - offer - Yes or offer at 1st viewing, depends on how much you like the property.
3rd viewing with architect - Why do you need an architect to measure up?
4th viewing with builder - As above...
5th viewing with kitchen fitter - Do this when you own the house...
etc etc

You seem to be assuming that everyone only needs another viewing to see if their sofa fits.  I've never seen a house advert with the dimensions of each window listed.

Everything you list above is irrelevant to measuring up, step 3 and below is what you do when you have bought the house. 

Not what I'm saying at all, the general meaning of measuring up is will my stuff fit and window blinds measuring etc. If you haven't done this in 2 viewings then what are you doing. 

If someone wants to buy my property but wants an extension or new kitchen that's great, but do that all when you own the property.

Your meaning of measuring up might be that, but it's an artificial restriction.  If I wanted to place an order for something with specific measurements, which could include carpets, a kitchen, a conservatory, an extension..., then the process of getting those measurements would be called measuring up.

Measure up : to discover what size something or someone is by measuring them.  

If the things I want to order have a long lead time, I might want to order them on the day of exchange so I don't have to have an empty house for any longer than necessary.  I'd want to have the measurements before that day, which would mean doing them on a viewing.

But hey, if you want to say to potential buyers "anything you don't find out in two visits must be done after buying", there's nothing to stop you.

I think as a buyer you need to have some sort of expectation management, remember this is still someone's home and that they are also managing a move. Its not difficult to do the basic measuring up in 2 viewings but architects and builders isnt necessary at this juncture unless you have stipulated this as part of your offer or agreed with the seller beforehand. 

Its usually FTBs/people from furnished rentals that need to order furniture prior to moving in so again this isnt a given in having to order furniture. When i bought my second home i slept on my old mattress until my new bed arrived.