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Council tax 2024/2025

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  • Marvel1
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    I knew about discounts for single occupancy and those on benefits but I did not know it could vary by the council you were under.

    Anyone know how it affects newer and older properties, our house was built in the 90's and it was band B.  The new build flats
    up the road are a B for single bedroom and C/D for 2/3 bedroom.

    Have the prices ever been adjusted since the 90's or will people buying/renting those flats pay the same as us or possible more?

    Must be a nightmare for people already struggling whilst getting a large discount currently and then finding their local council scrap
    the discounts.

    Where I live with my council, it would be the same whichever band they are in.
  • Marvel1
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    edited 30 March 2024 at 9:56AM
    OP: What is your suggestion instead of scrapping the 100% discount? Increasing the cost on those that pay 100%?  Scrap/reduce services?
  • lincroft1710
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    Anyone know how it affects newer and older properties, our house was built in the 90's and it was band B.  The new build flats
    up the road are a B for single bedroom and C/D for 2/3 bedroom.

    Have the prices ever been adjusted since the 90's or will people buying/renting those flats pay the same as us or possible more?


    In England and Scotland the basis of CT banding hasn't changed since the introduction of CT on 1 April 1993. Bands are based on what a property would have sold for had it been on the market for sale as at 1 April 1991.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • LightFlare
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    edited 31 March 2024 at 11:51AM
    .

    Anyone know how it affects newer and older properties, our house was built in the 90's and it was band B.  The new build flats
    up the road are a B for single bedroom and C/D for 2/3 bedroom.

    Have the prices ever been adjusted since the 90's or will people buying/renting those flats pay the same as us or possible more?


    In England and Scotland the basis of CT banding hasn't changed since the introduction of CT on 1 April 1993. Bands are based on what a property would have sold for had it been on the market for sale as at 1 April 1991.
    I’m just glad interest rates aren’t the same as in 1991

    (although personally it would benefit me massively)
  • MattMattMattUK
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    The unemployed aren't a protected category for discrimination as far as I know. Is giving them a 100% discount discrimination against the working (also not protected) as they have to pay for the non-payers? Hard to convince me that only a 50% discount is discrimination if I'm honest. How would it work for a single unemployed person? 50% off, then an extra 25% for single occupancy? That would still be 62.5% discount. Not too bad.

     I presume much of the council tax local decisions are at the discretion of the council - the empty homes used to vary from council to council.
    There are a couple of members on here very clued up on council tax - probably be along shortly with more knowledge and advice.

    Thats fine but how can a disabled person be expected to pay 50% when the only money they get is for day to day needs, the vast majority can't work
    Most disabled people do work.
    Richteddy12 said:
    all the local councils are exploring the sick or their carers. 
    I am presuming you mean exploiting rather than exploring. The councils are not exploiting people.
    Richteddy12 said:
    This is no different to thatchers poll tax 
    The so called "Poll Tax", was actually a sensible system, it was far more rational and "fair" than either the rates system before it or council tax which succeeded it. The major issue is that a lot of people felt that they should not have to pay it as they did not feel that they should have to contribute to society.
  • MattMattMattUK
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    Marvel1 said:
    OP: What is your suggestion instead of scrapping the 100% discount? Increasing the cost on those that pay 100%?  Scrap/reduce services?
    I suspect the usual, "someone else" should pay.
  • lincroft1710
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    Anyone know how it affects newer and older properties, our house was built in the 90's and it was band B.  The new build flats
    up the road are a B for single bedroom and C/D for 2/3 bedroom.

    Have the prices ever been adjusted since the 90's or will people buying/renting those flats pay the same as us or possible more?


    In England and Scotland the basis of CT banding hasn't changed since the introduction of CT on 1 April 1993. Bands are based on what a property would have sold for had it been on the market for sale as at 1 April 1991.
    I’m just glad interest rates aren’t the same as in 1991

    (although personally it would benefit me massively)
    Current bank rate is about the same as it was in 1966
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • cannugec5
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    Ours has just gone up by 10% as the council have refused to follow Scottish government advice to fix the rates. So we are now paying £380 per month. 

    However I don’t resent that. It is a huge chunk of our pension income, but I don’t want services cut - for us or anyone else. 
  • LightFlare
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    No matter how much it goes up it will still never be enough and rather than cutting back on wastage they cut back on services.
    So true -- infact, no doubt they will spend more money employing/promoting new manager (s) whose sole job it is will be to find savings.
    And so the wheels of bureaucracy turn
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