Can a Smart meter be installed flat (horizontally)?

Reaper
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I want a Smart meter but have limited space and a Smart electricity meter + comms device won't fit vertically on the wall, but it could do if it was laid flat. Is that allowed? I have contacted my provider's 3 times but can't get an answer.
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  • Torry_Quine
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    How do you know it won't fit? Has someone been to your home and told you 
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  • Robin9
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    edited 10 March 2024 at 2:48PM
    The new Smart meter is a replacement for your existing meter and is about the same size


    Edit - can we have a photo please ?
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  • Scot_39
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    There are sadly cases where there wont be enough space - the size differences are small - but can easily be an inch or so - and there is a limit to the bending of 100A / 25 mm2 meter tails from incoming / mains fuse - to enter the base of the new meter cleanly.

    There was another poster the other day with a similar problem - with fuse to meter tails coming in just below the more compact single phase suspect old dial meter - and no space above.

    See


    My meter fitter did a lot of the rejigging - moving Henley blocks and consumer unit tail isolators around by inches - and new connection tails from meter as old were then too short - all for free - but that was more to do with replacing a 5 port compact digital E10 meter (smaller than the analogue dial meter it physically replaced) with a 4 port smart + external contactor - a suppliers choice not mine - as the 2-3 year old digital was no longer supported.


    As to your main question - a quick google found one meter supplier - specifically saying to supplier's (non UK though) their smart meters should be installed upright.  

    And upright does seem to be the orientation in photos posted frequently here.

    But I am sure a more knowledgable person may (or maybe not ) be able to confirm mandatory.



  • Reed_Richards
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    The whole thing is electronic, I cannot see why orientation should make any difference other than the fact that the display will be on its side making it harder to take manual readings (if required).
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  • MWT
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    I'd be a little surprised if it could be installed in any orientation other than flat against the board that all metering and related DNO equipment is supposed to be mounted on...
  • Scot_39
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    edited 11 March 2024 at 3:53AM
    The whole thing is electronic, I cannot see why orientation should make any difference other than the fact that the display will be on its side making it harder to take manual readings (if required).
    No - well at least not in early days.

    They contain isolator / switching relays or contactors.

    Cannot remember if fail open or fail closed.

    My 4 port multirate meter uses an external contactor module to switch restricted supply 6 times a day - it sounds very mechanical to me -  a 5 port meter would have the alcs on board.

    The DNO guidelines mark a simple meter cabinet in 4 quadrants - bottom left for supply fuse - top left for meter - and meter designed to be mounted flat against the board.

    And whilst not saying its the reason - anything other than upright would risk water collecting on mains terminals.
  • Condensation and gravity.

    Best to mount it upright not flat imo
  • prowla
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    I don't think that there is anything in the functional components of an electrical meter which should affect its orientation.
    The point about condensation may be relevant, but I would be disturbed if I found any form of liquid coming from or in the vicinity of an electricity meter whether it were mounted vertical or flat.
  • macman
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    Even if legal, what horizontal surface would you mount it onto-if not a vertical wall?
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  • MWT
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    macman said:
    Even if legal, what horizontal surface would you mount it onto-if not a vertical wall?
    ... the routing for the tails could get challenging as well...
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