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DCB Legal Court Date March Resident

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  • Would really appreciate any pointers for the defence as I now have around a week left to get it in 
  • KeithP
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    edited 9 March 2024 at 12:18AM
    That image you have shown the world contains a lot of your personal information.
    E.g. Your vehicle's reg no, PCN numbers and your MCOL password.

    Suggest you delete that image.
  • KeithP
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    edited 9 March 2024 at 12:24AM
    Here is a 'safer' image of the POC...



    There is no mention there of whatever it is that the driver has done wrong.
    You are right to use the CEL v Chan words in your Defence but make sure you don't write anything in your Defence about what may have gone wrong.

    Earlier today you told us the PCN was issued for not displaying a permit.
    That may well be true, but there is no way that one can deduce from that Claim Form that the driver has done anything of the sort.
  • Okay thank you 
    so shall I remove the part about my son 
  • KeithP
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    edited 9 March 2024 at 1:10AM
    Okay thank you 
    so shall I remove the part about my son 
    Yes, I think you should remove that - also perhaps removing para 8.1.
    That in turn probably means para 8 isn't needed at all.

    I think you should move the Chan stuff to the beginning - as seen in the Template Defence thread.


  • IN THE COUNTY COURT

    Claim No.:  xxxxxx

    Between

    Full name of parking firm Ltd, not the solicitor!

    (Claimant) 

    - and -  

    Defendant named on claim (can’t be changed to driver now)                        

     (Defendant)

    _________________

    DEFENCE


    1.  The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that any conduct by the driver was in breach of any term.  Further, it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as agents) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the boilerplate text in the Particulars of Claim ('the POC').


    The facts known to the Defendant:

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper and driver. 



    1. It is admitted that the defendant was parked at xxxxxxx as the defendant was a  resident at Xxxxxxxxx from 2016 until July 2022 & during this time they were de facto authorised to park a roadworthy vehicle. The car park is a gated premises in which access is only obtainable by way of a fob which only residents have access too. At some point, the managing agents contracted with the Claimant company to enforce parking conditions at the estate.


    1. A recent persuasive appeal judgment in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) would indicate the POC fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4(1)(e) and Practice Direction Part 16.7.5. On the 15th August 2023, in the cited case, HHJ Murch held that 'the particulars of the claim as filed and served did not set out the conduct which amounted to the breach in reliance upon which the claimant would be able to bring a claim for breach of contract'. The same is true in this case and in view of the Chan judgment (transcript below) the Court should strike out the claim, using its powers pursuant to CPR 3.4. 

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    Authority to Park and Primacy of Contract

    5. It is denied that the Defendant or lawful users of his/her vehicle were in breach of any parking conditions or were not permitted to park in circumstances where an express permission to park had been granted to the Defendant permitting the above mentioned vehicle to be parked by the current occupier and leaseholder of [address], whose leaseholder agreement permits the parking of vehicle(s) on land. The Defendant avers that there was an absolute entitlement to park deriving from the terms of the lease, which cannot be fettered by any alleged parking terms. The lease terms provide the right to park a vehicle in the relevant parking area, without limitation as to type of vehicle, ownership of vehicle, the user of the vehicle. A copy of the leasehold agreement will be provided to the Court, together with witness evidence that prior permission to park had been given.

    6. The Defendant avers that the operator’s signs cannot (i) override the existing rights enjoyed by residents and their visitors and (ii) that parking easements cannot retrospectively and unilaterally be restricted where provided for within the lease. The Defendant will rely upon the judgments on appeal of HHJ Harris QC in 
    Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd (2016) and of Sir Christopher Slade in K-Sultana Saeed v Plustrade Ltd [2001] EWCA Civ 2011. The Court will be referred to further similar fact cases in the event that this matter proceeds to trial.

    7. Accordingly it is denied that:
    7.1. there was any agreement as between the Defendant or driver of the vehicle and the Claimant
    7.2. the Claimant has suffered loss or damage or that there is a lawful basis to pursue a claim for loss.
    7.3.  the Claimant has suffered or incurred any 'damages or indemnity costs if applicable' as vaguely stated in the
     original template POC dated 2020; or that
    7.4. the Claimant could now (without offending against the doctrine of good faith) attempt to claim a disingenuous reward of three years interest, as was stated on the 2020 POC on the claim form that was never served, due to their own lazy and improper service to an old, unchecked address.


    8. The underground car parking area contains allocated parking spaces demised to some residents, and a general area for residents who do not have an allocated space. Entry to the underground parking is by means of a key fob, of a type only issued to residents. Any vehicles parked therein are, therefore, de facto authorised to be there.


    9. The Defendant, at all material times, parked in accordance with the terms granted by the lease. The erection of the Claimant's signage, and the purported contractual terms conveyed therein, are incapable of binding the Defendant in any way, and their existence does not constitute a legally valid variation of the terms of the lease. Accordingly, the Defendant denies having breached any contractual terms whether express, implied, or by conduct.


    10. The Claimant, or Managing Agent, in order to establish a right to impose unilateral terms which vary the terms of the lease, must have such variation approved by at least 75% of the leaseholders, pursuant to s37 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987, and the Defendant is unaware of any such vote having been passed by the residents.


    The Claimant, or their legal representatives, has added additional sums to the original parking charge, for which no explanation or justification has been provided. Schedule 4 of the Protection Of Freedoms Act, at 4(5), states that the maximum sum which can be recovered is that specified in the Notice to Keeper, which is £100 in this instance. It is submitted that this is an attempt at double recovery by the Claimant, which the Court should not uphold, even in the event that Judgment for Claimant is awarded.


    11. For all or any of the reasons stated above, the Court is invited to dismiss the Claim in its entirety, and to award the Defendant such costs as are allowable on the small claims track, pursuant to Civil Procedure Rule 27.14. Given that the claim is based on an alleged contractual parking charge of £100 - already significantly inflated and mostly representing profit, as was found in Beavis - but the amount claimed on the claim form is inexplicably £xxx.xx, the Defendant avers that this inflation of the considered amount is a gross abuse of process.


    12. Given that it appears that this Claimant's conduct provides for no cause of action, and this is intentional and contumelious, the Claimant's claim must fail and the court is invited to strike it out.


    12.1. In the alternative, the Court is invited, under the Judge's own discretionary case management powers, to set a preliminary hearing to examine the question of this Claimant's substantial interference with easements, rights and 'primacy of contract' of residents at this site, to put an end to not only this litigation but to send a clear message to the Claimant to case wasting the court's time by bringing beleaguered residents to court under excuse of a contractual breach that cannot lawfully exist.


    13. The Claimant will concede that no financial loss has arisen and that in order to impose an inflated parking charge, as well as proving a term was breached, there must be:

    (i). a strong 'legitimate interest' extending beyond mere compensation for loss, and


    (Ii). 'adequate notice' of the 'penalty clause' charge which, in the case of a car park, requires prominent signs and lines.


    14. The Defendant denies (i) or (ii) have been met. The charge imposed, in all the circumstances is a penalty, not saved by ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC67 ('the Beavis case'), which is fully distinguished.




    Statement of Truth

    I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

    Signature:

    Date:

  • Morning just changed it around what do you think of this? 
  • Colonizemars
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    Just received letter from court I have until 13th March to submit 
  • Coupon-mad
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    No that is not the order of paragraphs seen in the hharry100 defence linked in the 3rd para of the Template Defence.
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  • Colonizemars
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    When you say no are you saying I should do it in the same order as the hharry100 defence 
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