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Not the Keeper nor the Driver

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  • thanks @Coupon-mad. I’ll make the changes. 👍
  • GrannyKate
    GrannyKate Posts: 1,900 Forumite
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    I totally fail to see at 44/45 how the exemption can apply.  Telling you the source of information does not seem to be relevant in this context at all. 
    Individuals have the right to know:
    • what information is being used
    • why it’s being used
    • where it came from
    • who can see the information
    Information used for management forecasting or planning – There is an exemption from complying with a DSAR if it relates to personal data being used for management forecasting or planning such as sales projections, staffing plans and financial forecasts. Disclosing this information could prejudice the business and reveal sensitive information about company operations and future plans.


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  • @GrannyKate I thought the same but I’ve done so much reading and studying that I didn’t have the energy to check it. I think I’ll look tonight and see if I can find it. Thank-you 
  • Pullmyfinger88
    Pullmyfinger88 Posts: 60 Forumite
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    edited 4 May 2024 at 4:30PM
    @KeithP yes the letters and emails were all “without prejudice” am I not even allowed to mention that I received them in my witness statement?
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    ...yes the letters and emails were all “without prejudice” am I not even allowed to mention that I received them in my witness statement?
    If all the letters were so marked, then I think you might need to rethink this.
    Wait for others to comment.
  • GrannyKate
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    edited 4 May 2024 at 4:43PM
    The relevant exemption is an exemption to GDPR as created by DPA 2018.  Fail to see what this has to do with telling you the source of your data.  You do not need to reference the old DPA 1998 as all events are post DPA 2018. 
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  • thanks @KeithP and @GrannyKate
  • thanks @GrannyKate. I knew when I wrote that I assumed she knew what she was talking about it would come back to bite me. 🤣 you’re absolutely correct, It’s got nothing at all to do with my situation. Shame on me for leaving that stone unturned. Thank-you
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,219 Forumite
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    edited 4 May 2024 at 5:40PM
    Just to follow up, to confirm that you cannot reference nor exhibit documents that are offers and are marked 'without prejudice'.

    Hopefully that doesn't include this golden nugget:
    5. As DCBL’S DPO admitted that “This in your case has produced a mistrace in error” (See attachment XXXXXX).

    Don't rush this as we have all weekend.

    What I think you are missing is an explanation as to where you got the figure of £900 from, as opposed to inventing it.

    I'd say you need to adduce the Vento bands and point out how modest this counterclaim is. Search the forum.

    And you need other case law that I used for someone only last week in trying to persuade them to run a counterclaim.  Search the forum for Halliday Vidal Hall and change the search to newest (and look for posts in April by me).

    Pretty sure I set the case law out that shows that awards can be made for pure distress and data abuse.

    You can also use Simon Clay v CEL, AND VCS v Ferguson, the transcripts for which is also kicking around the forum.

    The latter got awarded a grand, I think, and like your case it was about him being the wrong person and he had protested throughout (like you) but was still sued, so he counterclaimed (just like you).

    You need that one!



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