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Parking fine - Going to court - Guidance appreciated

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Hi All,

I have been helping my sister with this as per newbie guidance. Unfortunately, it looks like she is going to court in 3 weeks time or so. 

Any guidance or advice from someone who has been or knows what to do is greatly appreciated as she is very anxious.


Thank you in advance
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  • We'd need to know a bit more about the case than the anticipated date of the hearing. Please post  (with all identifying information redacted):

    1.  The front page of the claim form.

    2.  The defence.

    3. The claimant's witness statement.

    4. Your sister's witness statement
  • Hi thank you for getting back, I had to compile this.

    1. The claim is in regards to four (nov 21 - may 22) parking tickets that occurred at Barnet Hospital during COVID while my sister was working at the hospital they did give free parking for staff on premises but the tickets were a little after the fact, rest of the claim is pretty standard but thats the overview. All including their silly fees 850 GBP approx.

    2. Defense submitted was from the template, but brief paragraph about how she was working at the hospital during covid and no official notice and/or otherwise to state parking.

    3.  Claimant's statement: i have attached this below due to character limit.

    4. Sister's statement (I used a template from the forum but those are the main amended paragraphs otherwise its 40 pages):

    9. Misclassification of Parking Designation: The claimant mistakenly identified the parking
    area I used as "patient and visitor" parking, unaware that this area is also designated for staff
    parking. Crucially, they were also unaware of my status as staff until my notice of termination was
    issued. This oversight underscores a significant miscommunication and misunderstanding about
    the parking arrangements and staff entitlements, further challenging the basis of their claims
    against me. See Exhibit 5
    10. Extended Parking Agreement: During the COVID-19 pandemic, a special arrangement
    allowed NHS staff at the hospital to use parking spaces, recognizing the extraordinary
    circumstances and pressures faced. This agreement, documented through email
    communications, was not only extended multiple times but also verbally affirmed by senior staff
    at Barnet Hospital. These verbal communications indicated an indefinite extension of parking
    privileges for staff while they continued to work through the pandemic, suggesting a level of
    flexibility and support beyond the formal email notifications. See Exhibit 6
    11. Absence of a Formal Contract: There was never a formal contract or agreement
    established between the claimant (parking management) and the defendant (myself or NHS staff
    collectively) that explicitly prohibited parking during the COVID pandemic or at any other time.
    This lack of formal agreement is crucial, as the claimant has been unable to provide evidence of
    such a prohibition. Furthermore, the signage directed at NHS staff regarding parking policies
    remained unchanged throughout the pandemic. This unamended signage failed to reflect any
    new or temporary parking restrictions, indicating a disconnect between the claimant's assertions
    and the information provided to NHS staff. Contract terms can be ambiguous and capable of being
    interpreted in different ways, especially if they are not in writing or in an accessible format. In
    these cases, this section ensures that the interpretation that is most beneficial to the consumer,
    rather than the trader, is the interpretation that is used.

    12. Failure to resolve parking issues: The claimant's consistent failure to effectively manage
    parking arrangements for NHS staff during the pandemic is evident in their inability to issue
    necessary parking permits and to communicate clear and consistent information regarding parking policies. This lack of communication and failure to adapt to the unique circumstances of
    the pandemic resulted in confusion and frustration among NHS staff, who were already facing
    unprecedented challenges in their professional roles, which the Claimant has complete disregard
    for.

    13. Employment with NHS: My employment at Barnet Hospital is substantiated by Exhibit 7,
    underscoring my eligibility for parking under the special agreement during the pandemic. The
    absence of a formal termination notice for any supposed parking contract in 2022—especially
    following the imposition of what I consider to be exaggerated parking charges a year earlier—
    raises questions about the claimant's management practices and the validity of their claims
    against NHS staff. This discrepancy highlights a lack of procedural clarity and fairness in how
    parking policies were enforced during a time of extreme pressure on healthcare workers. (See
    Exhibit 07).

    14. Lack of physical barrier: The car park's open access for NHS staff, without a physical barrier
    or clear entry restrictions, further contradicts the claimant's allegations of parking violations. This
    lack of a barrier not only made it deceivingly easy for staff to assume parking was permitted but
    also undermines the claimant's argument about enforcing specific parking restrictions. The open
    access suggests an implicit invitation to park, conflicting with the claimant's later assertions of
    unauthorized use. See Exhibit 8
    15. Lack of signage, no parking instructions, and hidden terms: The signage distinguishing
    between visitor and staff parking areas is minimal and not clearly visible upon entering the car
    park. The signs are not positioned to be easily seen by drivers and are obscured from view,
    contributing to confusion about parking designations and exacerbating the miscommunication
    regarding parking permissions for NHS staff. This lack of clear, visible signage has made it difficult
    for staff and visitors alike to understand and comply with parking regulations, calling into question
    the fairness of enforcing any alleged violations. See Exhibit 8 and 9


    5. They added a supplementary witness statement on the 19th of Feb, bearing in mind court date is 29th Feb:

    I am the Enforcement Manager, employed by ParkingEye Ltd T/A Car Parking Partnership (“my
    Company”). I am duly authorised to make this Statement on my Company’s behalf.

    2. I make this Statement in support of the Claimant’s First Witness Statement and in response to the
    Defendant’s Witness Statement.

    3. The facts and matters set out in this statement are within my own knowledge unless I state otherwise.
    I believe them to be true. Where I refer to information supplied by others, the source is identified.
    Facts and matters derived from other sources are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
    4. The Defendant’s main dispute within their Witness Statement is in relation to the parking
    arrangements. They state that staff were permitted to park in patient and visitor areas, and that they
    were also permitted to park for free, under special arrangement, in line with an email that they have
    exhibited.

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    5. The Defendant’s statements are denied in their entirety. As stated within my first Witness Statement,
    The Defendant parked within an area in which the terms were as follows: -
    “Tariff payable at machine or by phone
    Parking tariffs apply 24 hours a day, 7 days a week”.

    6. The same applied regardless as to whether the Defendant was a staff member, and thus the Defendant
    was not exempt from complying with such terms. Whilst the Defendant’s correspondence is
    acknowledged at exhibit 6 of their Witness Statement, it is respectfully submitted that third parties do
    not override the terms and conditions of parking and the Defendant thus has an obligation to comply.

    7. In any event, the email in which the Defendant provided clearly states that staff are able to park for
    free with temporary permits until 30/06/2021. It reiterates that these permits/this agreement is
    temporary and encourages employees to make preparations for when the free parking comes to an
    end. It is submitted that all 4 PCNs issued to the Defendant range from 09/11/2021-05/05/2022, after
    the end of the date listed within the email that they exhibit. Thus, the evidence provided by the
    Defendant bears no relevance on the proceedings and they were under an obligation to comply with
    the terms at the time that the PCNs were issued.
    8. The Defendant also stated that the Claimant demonstrates a ‘consistent failure to effectively manage
    parking arrangements for NHS staff during the pandemic is evident in their inability to issue
    necessary parking permits and to communicate clear and consistent information regarding parking
    policies’. This is wholly denied. Pursuant to “EXHIBIT 2” of my first Witness Statement, signs
    were clearly visible on the land outlining the relevant parking restrictions. My Company is employed
    by the Landowner to manage the land and such terms as displayed on the land are the terms that are
    binding on the users of such. If the Defendant was unsure as to whether they had a requirement to
    comply with the aforementioned terms, respectfully, they ought to have sought alternative parking.
    9. The Defendant further disputes the lack of a physical barrier on the land, stating that this
    demonstrates open access for NHS staff and makes it easy for staff members to assume that they are
    entitled to park on the land. Respectfully, the Defendants statements are irrelevant to the proceedings.
    My Company is a member of the BPA and have complied with all requirements in order to manage
    the land. It is submitted that there is no responsibility to impose a barrier on the land and my
    Company has taken all reasonable steps to put users on notice of the terms on the land. The
    responsibility then lies with the Defendant to ensure such terms are reviewed and complied with.
  • Claimant's Statement :

    Defendant’s Liability

    18. Pursuant to the Contract; the Driver was liable to pay the Charge within 28 days of issue.

    19. In order to issue a PCN, my Company requests the details of the Registered Keeper from the DVLA
    and upon receipt of those details, Notice is sent to the Keeper via the post. The Charge Notice is
    followed up with other reminder notices. Copies are with “EXHIBIT 3”.

    20. My Company uses Automatic Number Plate Recognition (“ANPR”) technology on the Land to
    manage the parking. Cameras capable of accurately recording vehicle registration numbers are
    constantly monitoring the entrance and exit to the Land. A photograph is taken of each vehicle as it
    enters and exits the Land. Any vehicle found to have breached the Terms of parking will be issued
    with a PCN.

    21. The Defendant admits to being the Registered Keeper and Driver of the Vehicle within Paragraph 2
    of their Defence. My Company reasonably believes that the Defendant was the Driver on the balance
    of probabilities because they would otherwise have nominated a driver, and therefore the Defendant
    is pursued on that basis.

    Defence

    22. The case is simple. The ANPR cameras recorded the Vehicle on the Land without making payment
    for the duration of their stay. The signs very clearly state that parking is permitted for visitors and
    patients only with the correct tariff payment being made. The cameras are provided with criteria and
    issue charges where those criteria are met (i.e. not made payment). There can be no reason, other than
    to frustrate the matter, why the Defendant has submitted a legally complex defence in response to
    that. The Defendant simply needs to answer the questions that has been avoided throughout the
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    Defence; did they remain parked on the Land without making payment as per the signage displayed?
    The answer being yes as is evident from the photographs of the Vehicle contained within the Notices
    at “EXHIBIT 3”.

    23. The Defendant was afforded a 28-day period in which they could appeal, and I am instructed they did
    not. The potential next step was clearly communicated to the Defendant in notices. It is respectfully
    submitted that if the Defendant thought that the Charge had been issued incorrectly, they should have
    engaged with the appeals process further.

    24. If there was any doubt regarding their liability, the Defendant has had ample time to challenge the
    Charge or request evidence in support. Despite correspondence being sent to the Defendant by a debt
    collection agency and a Letter of Claim being issued in accordance with the Pre-Action Protocol for
    Debt Claims, no challenges have previously been raised.

    25. The Defendant has filed a widely available templated Defence, rather than dealing with the
    substantive issues. It is submitted the this is disingenuous and a waste of both the Court’s and my
    Company’s time.

    26. Notwithstanding the above, I respond to the issues by way of sub-headings as follows (as the Defence
    is quite repetitive, I will only deal with each point once, but for the avoidance of doubt nothing
    within the Defence is accepted unless I specifically state otherwise): -

    The Contract

    i. The Defendant alleges that there is no Contract between them and my Company. It is my

    Company’s position that there is and the details of which are set out above; Parking Eye -v-
    Beavis established that this form of Contract is perfectly workable;

    ii. Further to the above, the Defendant alleges that my Company has no authority to bring the Claim.
    The Landowner instructed my Company to manage the parking on the Land and issue Parking
    Charges to any Vehicle found to be in breach of the Terms of parking. A copy of the agreement
    can be seen at “EXHIBIT 1”. It is respectfully submitted that my Company has the relevant
    authority to issue Parking Charges and bring Claims for such in the event the charges remain
    outstanding. In any event, the Defendant is a third party to the Landowner Agreement and privity
    of Contract applies;

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    Defendant’s Allegations

    iii.The Defendant admits to being the Registered Keeper and the Driver of the Vehicle on the dates in
    question. It is my Company’s position that the Defendant breached the Terms of parking
    described within the First Witness Statement of Carly Boon and ought to remain liable for the
    same;

    iv. The Defendant submits that on each occasion, NHS staff were authorised to park at Barnet
    Hospital for free. Whilst my Company acknowledges the Defendant’s statement, it is clear from
    the Whitelist of the Vehicle exhibited to this Statement at “EXHIBIT 5” that there is no record
    of the Defendant’s Vehicle being exempt from Terms on the Land on the dates in question.
    Rather, it is evident from the Whitelist that the Defendant’s Vehicle has been exempt from Terms
    at “Asda Luton” and “Asda Colindale” due to being staff. It is therefore my Company’s position
    that the signage at “EXHIBIT 2” is clearly displayed on the Land for Drivers to read and ensure
    that they can comply with the same. If the Defendant was unable to comply with the Terms on the
    date in question, they ought to have sought out alternative parking;

    v. Further to the above, the Defendant has failed to provide any evidence to support their allegations
    of being staff of the hospital on the Land. It is further submitted that the Defendant is put to strict
    proof of the same. Moreover, should the Defendant provide evidence of their employment, my
    Company holds no recollection of the Defendant’s Vehicle being placed on the Whitelist to
    exempt them from Terms. In any event, the Defendant’s statement bears no relevance to the
    proceedings as the PCNs were issued in a patient and visitor car park, not a staff car park.
    Therefore, it is submitted that the Defendant ought to remain liable for the same;

    CPR Compliance

    vi. The Defendant questions whether the Particulars of Claim comply with the Civil Procedure Rules.
    I submit that the Claim was issued via the County Court Business Centre and in this regard, I
    refer to Practice Direction 7E (“the PD”) which specifically provides the guidelines for doing so.
    I respectfully submit that the Particulars of Claim (“the Particulars”) are in keeping with the PD.
    The following sections are of relevance: -

    5.2 (1) provides a limited character count for the Particulars of Claim; and

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    5.2A stipulates that the requirement in paragraph 7.3 of Practice Direction 16 for
    documents to be attached to the particulars of contract claims does not apply to claims
    started using an online claim form.

    vii. It is my Company’s position that the Particulars were sufficient to allow the Defendant to identify
    the subject matter of the Claim. The Defendant could not have submitted a Defence with the
    detail it contains if the Particulars were so insufficient as to prevent them from understanding the
    claim. Further, with respect, if the Defendant were of the genuine belief that the Particulars of
    Claim were insufficient, the correct procedure would have been to make an Application to the
    Court. The Defendant has chosen not to do so;

    viii.In addition to the above, I also refer to CPR 1 and respectfully remind the Defendant of their
    obligation to deal with the case justly and at proportionate cost. Bearing in mind the claim
    amount, my Company has taken proportionate steps to recover the debt;

    Amount Claimed

    ix. The Defendant alleges that my Company not suffered no actual losses. This is denied. The
    ‘Genuine pre-estimate of loss’ argument was often advanced in parking ticket claims prior to
    Parking Eye -v- Beavis [2015]. This issue was settled in that case. My company has a legitimate
    interest. Further, my Company is not seeking more than the original charge as the core debt
    (£100.00); however, my Company is now also seeking further costs/damages;

    x. My Company is instructed to manage the Land, the Landowner agreement previously referred to
    in this statement confirms this. My Company’s legitimate interest is to fulfil this obligation. The
    Landowner’s legitimate interest in managing the Land is because it is a hospital patient car park
    where payment for parking stops non patients parking on the Land, preventing genuine patients
    from not having access to parking. Because there is a clear legitimate interest/commercial
    justification, the same as that established in ParkingEye -v- Beavis [2015], this case does not fall
    foul of the penalty rules established in that case;

    xi. The amount charged is in line with the guidelines given by the ATA. Part 20.5 of the BPA COP
    states:- “We would not expect thus amount to be more than £100. If the Charge is more than this,
    operators must be able to justify the amount in advance”. It is my Company’s position that there
    is no requirement for the amount of the charge to bear any relevance to the actual or potential cost
    of parking. The PCN is a fee charged by my Company for providing the service and it stays
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    within the guidelines given by the ATA. As with many other ‘services’; the service provider is
    entitled to charge as they deem appropriate;

    xii. The PCN was not paid within the prescribed 28 days or indeed at all. In view of this, the sum of
    £70.00 is also claimed as a contractual cost pursuant to the Contract.
    The Defendant was on notice of the fact that the outstanding amount may increase as a result of
    any necessary debt recovery action. In support I draw the Court’s attention to paragraph 45 of
    Chaplair Limited v Kumari [2015] EWCA Civ 798 whereby, when considering contractual
    indemnity costs, it was stated: -

    “There is nothing ... which enable[s] the rules to exclude or override that contractual
    entitlement and I therefore agree with Arden LJ that the Judge had the jurisdiction to
    assess the costs free from any restraints imposed by CPR 27.14”;

    xiii.The sum added is a contribution to the actual costs incurred by my Company as a result of the
    Defendant’s non-payment. My Company’s employees have spent time and material attempting to
    recover the debt. This is not my Company’s usual business, and the resources could have been
    better spent in other areas of the business, generating profit. Had the Defendant of paid as per the
    Contract, there would have been no need for recovery action so the amount due would not have
    increased;

    xiv.With respect of Parking Eye -v- Beavis [2015], whilst it is accepted the original charge is
    designed to include the ‘operational costs’; this was with reference to maintaining the Land,
    taking payment or sending the relevant notices. It was never intended to include the need to
    pursue the debt in Court to recover it. If that were the case, it would override the Civil Procedure
    Rules (allowing fixed costs and recovery of Court fees) which of course is not the case. The
    Defendant has misunderstood the phrasing ‘operational costs’;

    xv. The recent successful appeal in Britannia Parking Group Ltd v Semark-Jullien [2020] EW Misc
    12 (CC) (29 July 2020) found that the inclusion of the debt recovery charge in the Claim does not
    fall foul of the decision of Parking Eye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, because that was not the
    point in discussion in that case. The appeal also concluded that the inclusion of such a charge in a
    Claim of this type does not constitute an abuse of process that would allow for the entire Claim to
    be struck out;

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    New Code of Practice (“COP”)

    xvi.The Defendant makes reference to the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities
    (“DLUHC”) and the ‘new’ parking code of practice originally published in February 2022 within
    their Defence. With respect, it is submitted that this bears no relevance to the matter at hand as
    the code has not yet been enacted with the current status of the code being ‘withdrawn’ as of June
    2022;

    xvii. Further to the above, the Defendant’s opinion of the industry being regulated by the Independent
    Parking Committee and British Parking Association bears no relevance to the Defendant’s
    liability. With respect, nothing has currently been implemented by the Government for my
    Company to adhere to (although this is of course pending). I respectfully ask the question: would
    the Defendant have deemed it more appropriate for my Company to not adhere to the COP(?).
    Referring to that Code is not ‘misleading’ – it is (at the present time) entirely relevant and section
    111 of Parking Eye -v- Beavis [2015] confirmed that;

    The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 (“POFA”)

    xviii.Within their Defence, the Defendant refers to the Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 (“POFA”)
    and states that the Defendant cannot be held liable as the Registered Keeper of the Vehicle as my
    Company has not complied with POFA. Respectfully, my Company does not intend to rely on
    POFA and the Defendant is pursed as the Driver of the Vehicle, not the Keeper. As such, the
    points raised within the Defendant’s Defence are not relevant to the proceedings. With respect,
    the Defendant has admitted to being the Driver of the Vehicle on the contravention date. It is
    therefore submitted that the Defendant’s Allegations regarding POFA bear no relevance to the
    proceedings;

    Signage / Unfair Contract Terms

    xix. The Defendant alleges that the signage is insufficient. The Terms on the signs at “EXHIBIT 2”
    were adequate in respect of overall size, font size, plain English, location and content. The Plan at
    “EXHIBIT 4” demonstrates where the signs were located and it is submitted they are adequate to
    constitute notice of the Terms to the Driver. If the Defendant did not understand the Terms on the
    signs, they should have exited the Land and found alternative parking;

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    xx. In the event that a Driver parks their Vehicle on Land in which they do not own nor have prior
    authority to park, it is incumbent upon the Driver to ascertain whether there is a remedy to
    prevent their unauthorised parking. It is reasonable to suggest that the Defendant should have
    sought out the signage on the Land in any case if they were unsure of the Terms of parking;

    xxi. Further to the above, the signs at “EXHIBIT 2” clearly outlined the Terms of parking, and the
    Defendant was on notice of the Terms upon entering the Land. By parking on the Land, the
    Defendant accepted the Terms. These Terms state that if parked on the Land, payment is required
    for the duration of their stay and that if the Terms are breached, the Defendant agrees to pay a
    Parking Charge of £100.00. The Vehicle remained on the Land without making payment for
    parking on each occasion, therefore; the Defendant breached the terms and agreed to pay a
    Parking Charge;

    xxii. In respect of the ‘terms’, as per Schedule 2 of the Consumer Right Act 2015, specifically referred
    to: -

    Term 6 – It is submitted the sum is not disproportionate for the reasons set out within
    the ‘amount claimed’ section of this Statement, nor is it ‘compensation’;

    Term 10 – As is evident from the Plan, signs were displayed throughout the Land. The
    Driver was aware of the fact that parking was managed from the point of entering the
    Land and could leave if they did not agree to the Terms. It is not unreasonable for the
    Driver to need to potentially walk no more than 10 meters to fully familiarise
    themselves with the full Terms. This would have all happened before the conclusion of
    the Contract;

    Term 14 – The price is stated on the sign;

    Term 18 – The fact the Driver was able to park means my Company fulfilled their
    obligations;

    xxiii.The phrase ‘double recovery’ suggests the same amount is being recovered twice. This is not what
    is claimed, as explained later in this Statement;

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    Landowner Authority

    xxiv.Within paragraph 27 of the Defence, the Defendant alleges my Company has failed to adhere to
    the Landowners definitions, exemptions, grace period, hours of operation and instructions to
    cancel charges due to complaints. The Defendant is a third party to the Landowner Agreement.
    Privity of contract applies;

    Defendant’s Costs

    the regular stuff from on here onwards, no point pasting and character limit

  • KeithP
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    hyperlime said:
    Hi All,

    I have been helping my sister with this as per newbie guidance. Unfortunately, it looks like she is going to court in 3 weeks time or so. 

    Any guidance or advice from someone who has been or knows what to do is greatly appreciated as she is very anxious.


    Thank you in advance

    Have you seen this video?...

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93eoaxhzpU

    Just three or four people sitting round a table having a discussion.

    That video was made a few years ago and many hearings nowadays seem to be via telephone or video link.
  • Any tips in terms of actual defense so she can win?
  • Fruitcake
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    What happened when your sister complained to the landowner/the head of the hospital trust, and her MP? That is always Plan A, and it is never too late to do so.

    If your sister is a union member, what has the union/her rep done to assist?

    As previously requested by @troublemaker22

    Please post  (with all identifying information redacted):

    1.  The front page of the claim form.




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    hyperlime said:
    Any tips in terms of actual defense so she can win?
    She's way past that stage, if WS and evidence has been exchanged and the court hearing date is next week. 
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  • hyperlime said:
    Any tips in terms of actual defense so she can win?
    She's way past that stage, if WS and evidence has been exchanged and the court hearing date is next week. 
    I meant as in to defend in person, not the actual written defence. Any pointers for that? She just repeats the same defence and sticks by it? Counter acts each point the claimants rep. makes?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 February 2024 at 11:19PM
    Hearing tips are in the NEWBIES thread. Does that help?
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  • Thank you. Will update on outcome 
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