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What is happening in the rental market?

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  • MikeJXE
    MikeJXE Posts: 3,856 Forumite
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    What does the "must have" mean?

    I tried the "student property" option in Glasgow and plenty of places were suggested but none exclusively for students.

    There is a lot of student accomodation in Glasgow and more being built but those places are not available to non-students.


    Rightmove have filters such as Flat or house or both 

    You can also choose what's required ie must have parking must have student accommodation or not 


  • Why is 29% of gross income so bad? Even a basic rate taxpayer pays 30%, and that's income they've actually had to go out and earn, and usually suffer travel costs etc to go to work as well.
    As for a yield of 4%, well yes I've never thought buy to lets ever really stood up to the yield test in the last 15-20 years even when rates were really low, it was only the effect of gearing and house price growth that turbocharged it.
    They certainly don't make a lot of sense now in a falling market.
    I neither say that it is good or that it is bad - it is what it is and has a consequential impact on yield and hence on incentive to invest in the market.

    You can't expect landlords to stay in a market where the levels of return - which are partly determined by tax and regulatory obligations that now form the large majority of costs - don't match up to alternative opportunities. Investing money into pensions, ISAs and suchlike is a much easier activity so it is no surprise to see landlords leaving the market and reducing supply - which is part of the answer to the OP's thread title "What is happening in the rental market." (along with provision of social housing and the demand side of the equation)

    From my own perspective, pensions are very attractive, ISAs are desirable, Premium Bonds are okay for funds above ISA allowance, Venture Capital Trusts have some attraction, unwrapped investments are more trouble than they are worth with the recent slashing of capital gains tax and dividend taxation, savings accounts have such a low tax-free allowance to be unattractive whilst I am a higher-rate taxpayer, and rental properties aren't even on the radar.
    Absolutely, I wouldn't expect landlords to stay in the market, but this is what happens when successive governments have effectively privatised a huge chunk of the country's housing stock out to amateur investors.

  • BobT36
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    MikeJXE said:
    East Midlands but more central

    2 bed flat this time last year was £625 now  £725 + 

    My 1 bed  I moved into last  February was £625 

    No increase yet 
    A friend searched Reading area for 6 months before securing a property. One bed flat - £1050 per month + bills.
    One year rent up front.
    12.6k upfront!!!! Imagine having multiple of those and banging it all in a high-interest account. Or just buying another property with it. Wow. 
  • BobT36
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    edited 4 February 2024 at 5:15AM
    I'd have also thought that more landlords selling up, less rentals & rental price going up, would mean more up for purchase, and avg sale price going DOWN? But that doesn't seem to have happened that much, despite all the interest rate rises.. 

    Just where are all these houses going? 

    There's a point that for rentals they can just HMO it (officially or otherwise..) and bung loads of people in one dwelling whereas purchased houses will likely be single family, but still..
  • Olinda99
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    you forgot deposit protection fee and PAT testing! Also you are lucky not to have a selective licensing fee.
  • staffie1
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    grumbler said:
    RHemmings said:
    Having bought a house, the rental property I'm currently in is on the market for new tenants. 

    It's listed for hundreds more than I'm paying a month, and the number of viewings is just unreal. 

    Is this typical? 
    Thanks to our lawmakers, being a landlord became a hard and risky job, that has to be paid for accordingly.
    …and they’ve still done nothing to improve the rights of tenants.
    If you will the end, you must will the means.
  • RHemmings
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    edited 4 February 2024 at 8:36AM
    I had a look around at all of Leicester. If I was having to rent again now, this is what I would do.

    First, I'm currently in a large 3 bed semi. If renting again, I would certainly be looking at 2 bed terraced properties, and would have to downsize stuff to fit. 

    Also, while I've been targetting particular areas in the past, I think I would have to look at properties anywhere in the city. 

    And, while I had no real trouble finding a property last time (about two years ago), I remember one 2-bed flat where several of us turned up for a viewing. The EA never turned up and I later heard from them that the flat had already let so they cancelled the viewings. 'Thanks' for not telling us. That makes me think that hanging on Rightmove and applying the instant a property is listed would be a good idea. 

    I'm not sure that the above would be sufficient to find me a property without paying extremely expensive rent (compared to salary). But I would try. I'd put on Facebook that I'm looking for a property, but I wouldn't have high hopes of friend of a friend. 

    If I hadn't received inheritance, then I couldn't have afforded the property I've bought (for cash). But, I would have been able to afford a 2 or 3 bed terraced property with a smallish (1x salary or so) mortgage. I suspect that if I found myself trying to rent in this market I would have jumped ship to ownership even if it was just a house that was anything I could get, and expensive. Even at current rates, it takes quite a bit of mortgage to match the rent I was paying. Others trying to build a deposit may not be so lucky. 

    In the long distant past, I did have a rental fall through at the last minute. In that case I dumped all my stuff in one of those storage places and stayed with in-laws. This was in the extremely late 1990s. Before I decided to throw money at things by not giving notice until my sale had completed for stress-reduction reasons, I considered putting all my stuff in storage and going into a single room. Looking on booking.com, it's possible to find single rooms for enough less than my current rent that it would cover the storage costs. That would leave me reasonably 'agile' in terms of waiting for something to come up and being able to move in. That's for me at the moment. When my family is back (and for others with families) that doesn't work. Though, it would work for my partner and I and my son continuing to move around the country staying with friends. 

    Sorry, a bit lazy this morning. I think that someone asked if student properties can be advertised as only for students. I had a look at some in my local area, and while they were advertised as 'student property', none actually said that they were only for students. That doesn't mean that a landlord wouldn't just silently choose students. 
  • ProDave
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    • £475 Replacement fuseboard to meet latest regulatory standards (fuseboard was fairly new and if I was continuing to live there would not have been replaced).


    I will pick up on that one item as I think you were scammed.

    You say it was a recent CU so I am guessing a split load dual RCD plastic consumer unit, and your electrician told you it had to be metal

    If that was the case it was unecessary work.  a plastic CU as long as it is in good order should only be a C3 on an EICR so would not make the EICR unsatisfactory.  It is both surprising and disappointing how many electricians will gladly tell you it must be replaced.
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