Laptop for campervan travelling advice please

Cisco001

Dell 7410/i5-10310U/8GB Ram/256GB SSD/13"/W10/B £150 CEX

cerebus

Cisco001 said:

Dell 7410/i5-10310U/8GB Ram/256GB SSD/13"/W10/B £150 CEX

Out of stock

I've noticed CEX has a tendancy to put too good to be true prices on out of stock items 

Cisco001

cerebus said:

Cisco001 said:

Dell 7410/i5-10310U/8GB Ram/256GB SSD/13"/W10/B £150 CEX

Out of stock

I've noticed CEX has a tendancy to put too good to be true prices on out of stock items 

Was instock at the time I was posting...

But laptop with i5-10210u could be found at ebay for around £150

GDB2222

cerebus said:

GDB2222 said:

Just bear in mind that the i5-7200 was launched in 2016, so whilst I the processor is still very capable the whole machine could be 7 years old. Battery life may be limited, etc. Personally, I would pay £100 more for a new machine, but YMMV. For a given price, you obviously get a better spec buying second hand.

It's not very MSE recommending a £100 more new machine and potentially sending a slightly old one to landfill  because the battery may be knackered , batteries can be had for a lot less than £100 and will not only breathe new life into a slightly old machine but will help save the planet too!

Those are good points. On the other hand, the new machine is a very capable machine, which should still be working fine in 10 years time. And, it's good value. 

I have a laptop that I use when I am away from home. It was bought in 2014, and it has a N2830 CPU. It's usable, but really rather slow. At what point do you say that a machine is too old, slow and unreliable?  

And, if you buy a new machine and keep it throughout its useful lifespan, is that less good for the planet than buying a secondhand machine?  

Cisco001

Win 10 end of life in 2025.
Personally don't see the point of buying laptop with unsupported CPU at this stage.
In additional, laptop with i5-10210u could be found at £150. 
What's the point getting laptop with older CPU at that price?

Bonhomie

GDB2222 said:

cerebus said:

GDB2222 said:

Just bear in mind that the i5-7200 was launched in 2016, so whilst I the processor is still very capable the whole machine could be 7 years old. Battery life may be limited, etc. Personally, I would pay £100 more for a new machine, but YMMV. For a given price, you obviously get a better spec buying second hand.

It's not very MSE recommending a £100 more new machine and potentially sending a slightly old one to landfill  because the battery may be knackered , batteries can be had for a lot less than £100 and will not only breathe new life into a slightly old machine but will help save the planet too!

Those are good points. On the other hand, the new machine is a very capable machine, which should still be working fine in 10 years time. And, it's good value. 

I have a laptop that I use when I am away from home. It was bought in 2014, and it has a N2830 CPU. It's usable, but really rather slow. At what point do you say that a machine is too old, slow and unreliable?  

And, if you buy a new machine and keep it throughout its useful lifespan, is that less good for the planet than buying a secondhand machine?  

Your device with an N2830 was terrible when you bought it. For sure no one here recommended it to you.
When we recommend something, we keep in mind that it has to be usable in the first instance. Yours was not. 
My second hand DELL Latitude is already eleven years old and not at all slow. So which is the better buy? Yours is already unusable.

Bonhomie

Cisco001 said:

Win 10 end of life in 2025.
Personally don't see the point of buying laptop with unsupported CPU at this stage.
In additional, laptop with i5-10210u could be found at £150. 
What's the point getting laptop with older CPU at that price?

Why not post a link for the OP or send via PM. 
Personally, I don't necessarily agree with your stance, as it depends on the device available. I'd rather get a high quality business device with a 8th Gen, than a cheap and tacky device with a 10th Gen.
Furthermore, an 'unsupported CPU' is not an impediment to upgrading to Windows 11.
Nevertheless, you CAN find used Lenovo V15 IML on eBay at the price point. Example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115934426653

cerebus

GDB2222 said:

cerebus said:

GDB2222 said:

Just bear in mind that the i5-7200 was launched in 2016, so whilst I the processor is still very capable the whole machine could be 7 years old. Battery life may be limited, etc. Personally, I would pay £100 more for a new machine, but YMMV. For a given price, you obviously get a better spec buying second hand.

It's not very MSE recommending a £100 more new machine and potentially sending a slightly old one to landfill  because the battery may be knackered , batteries can be had for a lot less than £100 and will not only breathe new life into a slightly old machine but will help save the planet too!

Those are good points. On the other hand, the new machine is a very capable machine, which should still be working fine in 10 years time. And, it's good value. 

I have a laptop that I use when I am away from home. It was bought in 2014, and it has a N2830 CPU. It's usable, but really rather slow. At what point do you say that a machine is too old, slow and unreliable?  

And, if you buy a new machine and keep it throughout its useful lifespan, is that less good for the planet than buying a secondhand machine?  

Yes to your last paragraph  , there are far far too many laptops consigned to the scrapheap every year cause people want the latest tech/a slightly faster machine when there is nothing wrong with them 

It's the same issue with phones

GDB2222

Bonhomie said:

GDB2222 said:

cerebus said:

GDB2222 said:

Just bear in mind that the i5-7200 was launched in 2016, so whilst I the processor is still very capable the whole machine could be 7 years old. Battery life may be limited, etc. Personally, I would pay £100 more for a new machine, but YMMV. For a given price, you obviously get a better spec buying second hand.

It's not very MSE recommending a £100 more new machine and potentially sending a slightly old one to landfill  because the battery may be knackered , batteries can be had for a lot less than £100 and will not only breathe new life into a slightly old machine but will help save the planet too!

Those are good points. On the other hand, the new machine is a very capable machine, which should still be working fine in 10 years time. And, it's good value. 

I have a laptop that I use when I am away from home. It was bought in 2014, and it has a N2830 CPU. It's usable, but really rather slow. At what point do you say that a machine is too old, slow and unreliable?  

And, if you buy a new machine and keep it throughout its useful lifespan, is that less good for the planet than buying a secondhand machine?  

Your device with an N2830 was terrible when you bought it. For sure no one here recommended it to you.
When we recommend something, we keep in mind that it has to be usable in the first instance. Yours was not. 
My second hand DELL Latitude is already eleven years old and not at all slow. So which is the better buy? Yours is already unusable.

The thing is that I use this supposedly unusable device for a few weeks each year. But, I agree that it’s slow. At the time I bought it, it was £130. It’s difficult to say what I could have brought 10 years ago for the same money that would still be working well now? 

Cisco001

Bonhomie said:

Cisco001 said:

Win 10 end of life in 2025.
Personally don't see the point of buying laptop with unsupported CPU at this stage.
In additional, laptop with i5-10210u could be found at £150. 
What's the point getting laptop with older CPU at that price?

Why not post a link for the OP or send via PM. 
Personally, I don't necessarily agree with your stance, as it depends on the device available. I'd rather get a high quality business device with a 8th Gen, than a cheap and tacky device with a 10th Gen.
Furthermore, an 'unsupported CPU' is not an impediment to upgrading to Windows 11.
Nevertheless, you CAN find used Lenovo V15 IML on eBay at the price point. Example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115934426653

I am not taking about consumer grade laptop. It has to be entry level business laptop to start with.
Lenovo thinkpad E14/ HP ProBook 430.