Taxed, insured, no MOT

EnPointe

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt
You can report him, maybe call your local town hall and ask advice there

Why? It's the police who are responsible for criminal matters.

waste disposal matters are  something for Environmental Health and community Protection 
damage to the  road surface is a matter for the highway  Dept 

what is the crime here ?

Car_54

EnPointe said:

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt
You can report him, maybe call your local town hall and ask advice there

Why? It's the police who are responsible for criminal matters.

waste disposal matters are  something for Environmental Health and community Protection 
damage to the  road surface is a matter for the highway  Dept 

what is the crime here ?

A car that is taxed and insured is not waste to be disposed of.

Not having an MOT is a criminal offence.

theoretica

elsien said:

Local council said if there’s a blue badge on the car, permit isn’t needed. They don’t look at whose badge it is. 

I am surprised your council doesn't have a way to report blue badge misuse - ours is very keen on it!

wolvoman

Even if a crime has been committed, is this really what we want our stretched police forces to be dealing with?

It’s not even low level criminality that could lead to more serious crimes.

A neighbour’s car is quite often outside our house despite having a driveway big enough for 4-5 cars. My relief is that my hedge blocks the view.

OP, maybe build a wall to block the view.

Ganga

Can you not notify the authority that the blue badge is being abused? i am sure you could do this anonymously ,worth a try.

elsien

wolvoman said:

Even if a crime has been committed, is this really what we want our stretched police forces to be dealing with?

It’s not even low level criminality that could lead to more serious crimes.

A neighbour’s car is quite often outside our house despite having a driveway big enough for 4-5 cars. My relief is that my hedge blocks the view.

OP, maybe build a wall to block the view.

You’ve missed the point completely. I don’t care about the view. I don’t live in the most salubrious of areas anyway. And none of the houses here have drives.
So what  I care about is not having a scarce parking resource taken up by a broken down wreck that seems unlikely to be going anywhere any time soon. 

Glad

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt
You can report him, maybe call your local town hall and ask advice there

Why? It's the police who are responsible for criminal matters.

I had one parked outside my house, that looked abandoned, and had no MOT, I reported it to my local council who put a notice on it to say that if it wasn't moved in 7 days it would be towed. 3 days later it was gone.

It's possible that different councils have different rules, which is why I posted, 'maybe call your local town hall and ask for advice'

I hope that answers your question

Car_54

Glad said:

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt
You can report him, maybe call your local town hall and ask advice there

Why? It's the police who are responsible for criminal matters.

I had one parked outside my house, that looked abandoned, and had no MOT, I reported it to my local council who put a notice on it to say that if it wasn't moved in 7 days it would be towed. 3 days later it was gone.

It's possible that different councils have different rules, which is why I posted, 'maybe call your local town hall and ask for advice'

I hope that answers your question

Thank you, it does.

But AFAIK no council will treat a car as abandoned if it's taxed and insured, as the OP describes.

user1977

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

Car_54 said:

Glad said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt
You can report him, maybe call your local town hall and ask advice there

Why? It's the police who are responsible for criminal matters.

I had one parked outside my house, that looked abandoned, and had no MOT, I reported it to my local council who put a notice on it to say that if it wasn't moved in 7 days it would be towed. 3 days later it was gone.

It's possible that different councils have different rules, which is why I posted, 'maybe call your local town hall and ask for advice'

I hope that answers your question

But AFAIK no council will treat a car as abandoned if it's taxed and insured, as the OP describes.

Whereas mine will (quite swiftly) lift any permitless car if it's in a permit-only zone, which appears to be the bigger problem around the OP. So I think lobbying the local councillor(s) may be helpful.

jimjames

Aretnap said:

TooManyPoints said:

No, he can't park on the road without a valid MOT, unless he has an MOT booked and will be driving the car only to that appt

There are three terms used in connection with vehicles and road traffic law: "keeping", "using" and "driving". None are defined in legislation and if an allegation is contested it is up to a court to determine whether a law has been broken.

The legislation covering MoT test requirements for cars (Section 47 of the Road Traffic Act) makes it an offence to "use" a motor vehicle without a valid test certificate. Clearly "using" requires more activity that merely "keeping" but less than "driving". I cannot imagine a court deciding that the vehicle described in this question is being "used" and that could explain why the police are reluctant to become involved with enforcement on vehicles with no valid MoT that are simply parked.

 I don't see how this case is any different.

This case is quite different because the car has both insurance and tax.