Claim form received from Met Parking via CST law

DefenderLad

Gr1pr said:

Depends if the claimant parking company send a jobbing legal representative or not, its their case, most interim legals don't actually attend, jobbing advocates are sent on behalf of the parking company 

Pretty typical, nothing new 

So no body CST law is turning up but someone from the actual Parking firm who is a legal representative might turn up?  Surely I should be told about this seeing as the parking firm have done all their communication from CST Law? What sort of actual circus is this? If CST can’t be bothered and they’re doing the bidding for the parking firm, why would CST law bother getting involved? 

KeithP

DefenderLad said:

Gr1pr said:

Depends if the claimant parking company send a jobbing legal representative or not, its their case, most interim legals don't actually attend, jobbing advocates are sent on behalf of the parking company 

Pretty typical, nothing new 

So no body CST law is turning up but someone from the actual Parking firm who is a legal representative might turn up?  Surely I should be told about this seeing as the parking firm have done all their communication from CST Law? What sort of actual circus is this? If CST can’t be bothered and they’re doing the bidding for the parking firm, why would CST law bother getting involved? 

Yes, no-one from CST Law will turn up.
No, no-one from the parking company will turn up.
However, a local jobbing advocate will be there to progress the Claimant's case.

DefenderLad

KeithP said:

DefenderLad said:

Gr1pr said:

Depends if the claimant parking company send a jobbing legal representative or not, its their case, most interim legals don't actually attend, jobbing advocates are sent on behalf of the parking company 

Pretty typical, nothing new 

So no body CST law is turning up but someone from the actual Parking firm who is a legal representative might turn up?  Surely I should be told about this seeing as the parking firm have done all their communication from CST Law? What sort of actual circus is this? If CST can’t be bothered and they’re doing the bidding for the parking firm, why would CST law bother getting involved? 

Yes, no-one from CST Law will turn up.
No, no-one from the parking company will turn up.
However, a local jobbing advocate will be there to progress the Claimant's case.

And what’s in it for the jobbing servant? What on earth do they have to do with this case? If the  two actual firms don’t have the common decency to turn up and defend this own nonsense? Why is this shambles even still being considered/pursued?

Gr1pr

KeithP said:

DefenderLad said:

Gr1pr said:

Depends if the claimant parking company send a jobbing legal representative or not, its their case, most interim legals don't actually attend, jobbing advocates are sent on behalf of the parking company 

Pretty typical, nothing new 

So no body CST law is turning up but someone from the actual Parking firm who is a legal representative might turn up?  Surely I should be told about this seeing as the parking firm have done all their communication from CST Law? What sort of actual circus is this? If CST can’t be bothered and they’re doing the bidding for the parking firm, why would CST law bother getting involved? 

Yes, no-one from CST Law will turn up.
No, no-one from the parking company will turn up.
However, a local jobbing advocate will be there to progress the Claimant's case.

As above, standard stuff, same thing applies with DCB Legal and Gladstone's, and others like Elms Legal, probably Moorside Legal too, , they cannot be questioned if they are not tasked to be in court , its common knowledge, common practice 

KeithP

DefenderLad said:

KeithP said:

DefenderLad said:

Gr1pr said:

Depends if the claimant parking company send a jobbing legal representative or not, its their case, most interim legals don't actually attend, jobbing advocates are sent on behalf of the parking company 

Pretty typical, nothing new 

So no body CST law is turning up but someone from the actual Parking firm who is a legal representative might turn up?  Surely I should be told about this seeing as the parking firm have done all their communication from CST Law? What sort of actual circus is this? If CST can’t be bothered and they’re doing the bidding for the parking firm, why would CST law bother getting involved? 

Yes, no-one from CST Law will turn up.
No, no-one from the parking company will turn up.
However, a local jobbing advocate will be there to progress the Claimant's case.

And what’s in it for the jobbing servant? What on earth do they have to do with this case? If the  two actual firms don’t have the common decency to turn up and defend this own nonsense? Why is this shambles even still being considered/pursued?

The jobbing advocate will of course get paid for his part and they can't be questioned. He will know nothing more than what's in the Claimant's witness statement and he will have only seen that perhaps the night before.
They're just doing a job.

DefenderLad

Someone please help me here as my head is really struggling now. The orginal fine was £60. It’s been suggested on here many many many times that’s all the triumphed up charges aren’t valid. They paid £30 to get this to court, so are now down do to £30. They need to pay CST legal and this jobbing legal to do their dirty work? How much is this costing them? If they some how win they’re only going to get back the orginal fine correct? Why on earth and how the hell is this circus still carrying on? 

Gr1pr

The original invoice. ( Not a fine. ) Would have been £100 , not £60 , for one PCN, or per PCN 

The £100 charge ( invoice. ) may or may not be enforceable ( not the valid  charges argument )

The court case, if its paid for and goes ahead, will determine if the defendant owes the claimant the £100 or not 

Court costs plus a limited legal charge can be added, so a typical loss for everything is around £212 for a single PCN 

There are 2 actual fees, not one,  one to the CNBC of say £30 or possibly £33 or more, the second fee of say £27 to your local court, plus legal fees of say £50

The typical spurious added debt collectors charges of say £70 are what are considered to be not valid, regularly thrown out in courts up and down the land 

The typical £200 advocate charge could be asked for in court, by the jobbing advocate , but rarely awarded 

If they do actually win in court, the claimant parking company will get £100 from you, towards their total outlay

Its an unregulated industry, you would need to ask your local MP and the successive governments about the latter 

Coupon-mad

DefenderLad said:

Someone please help me here as my head is really struggling now. The original fine was £60. It’s been suggested on here many many many times that’s all the triumphed up charges aren’t valid. They paid £30 to get this to court, so are now down do to £30. They need to pay CST legal and this jobbing legal to do their dirty work? How much is this costing them? If they some how win they’re only going to get back the orginal fine correct? Why on earth and how the hell is this circus still carrying on? 

Because it's a numbers game. You are in the minority. Most people poo their pants and pay. They aren't making any money from Defendants like you, who defend well.

Your case loses them money even if they win. I predict they might still discontinue it.

This is normal.

Read any Gladstones ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST thread (there are almost no CST ones but Gladstones MO is the same).

Search for those words in bold and read some court outcomes involving jobbing legal reps who struggle to read the case in time and as such, PPCs usually lose.

Obviously attend and if it's in-person, POLITELY REFUSE the 'chat in a side room' with the young rep before the hearing.  Read more threads if you didn't know any of this.  Gladstones threads are an exact match.