Intelligent Speed Assist

Barkin

sevenhills said:

Bigwheels1111 said:

In the old days, ha ha.
Before brexit, the limiter was to reduce speed and would slow you down.
Not let you speed.
Make a note of how many times you override it etc.
Then probably sell the data to you insurance company and charge you more.
Conspiracies all around.
After brexit it was fitted but override is possible as you say.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content/news/mandatory-speed-limiters-on-uk-cars-from-2022

As with DPFs, our rules and possibly other countries rules allow for their removal. 

Do they?             

sevenhills

Barkin said:

Do they?             

Thousands do it, according to the link. No mention of anyone being fined or prosecuted!

I am unsure if my car has a DPF, I do a lot of short journies, never get any warning lights and it is a little smokey.

You can get your car remapped and the DPF taken out, in every large town in the UK.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/95410/thousands-of-uk-motorists-removing-diesel-particulate-filters

Barkin

sevenhills said:

Barkin said:

Do they?             

Thousands do it, according to the link. No mention of anyone being fined or prosecuted!

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/95410/thousands-of-uk-motorists-removing-diesel-particulate-filters

Thousands of people speed. Is thst OK?

Removing a DPF, from a vehicle that should have one fitted, is a MOT test failure I believe.

From your link:

The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency has caught 1,800 drivers since 2014 driving with the pollution-reducing filter removed from their car.

While it’s not illegal to remove a car’s DPF, it is illegal to drive without it if one should be fitted. It’s believed some drivers whose DPFs become blocked are simply bypassing the filters by removing them rather than paying for a replacement, which typically costs around £1,000. In doing so, car drivers are risking a £1,000 fine, while the penalty for driving a van without a DPF stands at £2,500

ontheroad1970

sevenhills said:

Barkin said:

Do they?             

Thousands do it, according to the link. No mention of anyone being fined or prosecuted!

I am unsure if my car has a DPF, I do a lot of short journies, never get any warning lights and it is a little smokey.

You can get your car remapped and the DPF taken out, in every large town in the UK.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/95410/thousands-of-uk-motorists-removing-diesel-particulate-filters

So I could break any law with impunity as long as I don't get prosecuted?  Doesn't change the legality of it one iota

sevenhills

ontheroad1970 said:

So I could break any law with impunity as long as I don't get prosecuted?  Doesn't change the legality of it one iota

With the massive efforts that the Government makes, to solve climate change and reduce pollution, the Government must be aware of what is going on.

Not sure if MOTs are tighter in some countries? It seems to be high mileage vans that are the worst culprits.

This illegal trade is massive and advertised far and wide. Its almost like the Government are ok with it?

https://hitechperformance.co.uk/

oldagetraveller1

My car has this Intelligent Speed Assist function.

More commonly described as the driver, their eyes and right foot.

Barkin

sevenhills said:

ontheroad1970 said:

So I could break any law with impunity as long as I don't get prosecuted?  Doesn't change the legality of it one iota

https://hitechperformance.co.uk/

That refers to DPF cleaning - not removal. 

From another site - this one with some info relevant to this issue :

https://dkuperformance.co.uk/what-are-dpf-and-egr-delete/#:~:text=Although some people think of,generally not worth the risk.

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Is it Worth Deleting DPF?

All modern diesel cars in the UK are fitted with particulate filters as standard to comply with environmental regulations regarding exhaust gases. Although some people think of DPFs as a liability because they can affect engine performance when they get clogged, removing your DPF is generally not worth the risk.

Firstly, removing a DPF is more complicated than it might seem, as your onboard computer (or ECU) will lock the car into ‘limp home mode if it senses the DPF is defective or missing. Secondly, once you remove your DPF and fool your cat into thinking it’s okay, you risk criminal penalties since it is illegal to drive a vehicle with the DPF removed.

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sevenhills

That refers to DPF cleaning - not removal. 

It refers to ECU programming and o2 sensor delete, which I assume forms part of a 'tune up' that would produce more emmissions than standards and probably be part of DPF removal. I havnt had it done, so I am unsure.

You are just being pedantic, there are thousands of garages that will remove the inards of your DPF.

Barkin

sevenhills said:

That refers to DPF cleaning - not removal. 

there are thousands of garages that will remove the inards of your DPF.

Doesn't make it legal though.

If you're interested (I suspect not) it's section 8.2.2.1 in the MOT Inspection Manual, but if you're intent on stating that it's OK despite the links presented here (one by yourself...) showing that it's not, then fill ya boots. I'm done. 

Dave_5150

Barkin said:

sevenhills said:

That refers to DPF cleaning - not removal. 

there are thousands of garages that will remove the inards of your DPF.

Doesn't make it legal though.

If you're interested (I suspect not) it's section 8.2.2.1 in the MOT Inspection Manual, but if you're intent on stating that it's OK despite the links presented here (one by yourself...) showing that it's not, then fill ya boots. I'm done. 

Details here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/diesel-particulate-filters-guidance-note/diesel-particulate-filters#legal-requirements-and-the-mot-test

tl;dr "Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use".