Changing old ceiling rose light fitting (lots of wires)
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TheJP
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Hi everyone, I am changing an old ceiling rose light fitting with a new modern light. The ceiling rose has about 10 wires which I assume is a loop fitting. I only have a live and a neutral connectors on the new fitting.
I’ve been researching and wago connectors seem to be a good solution. Can anyone advise how many I need and which wires need to go in the same wago connector. Picture attached
Thanks as always
Thanks as always
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That's a standard rose fitting. You can just wire it in a junction box above the ceiling and then connect the two wires to the new fitting.
You can use wagos, but you do need to know what you are doing in both cases!1 -
How old is that ceiling covering and could that be artex type material that is breaking up round the edge of the fitting?0
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Veteransaver said:That's a standard rose fitting. You can just wire it in a junction box above the ceiling and then connect the two wires to the new fitting.
You can use wagos, but you do need to know what you are doing in both cases!
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Someone on another group has suggested taking the terminal block out of the fitting and putting it in the new fitting as it will fit. Although I’m not sure where the earth wires would go. I have added a picture of the new fitting.0
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TheJP said:Veteransaver said:That's a standard rose fitting. You can just wire it in a junction box above the ceiling and then connect the two wires to the new fitting.
You can use wagos, but you do need to know what you are doing in both cases!I think all cables have earth.So you need:3 4-port wagos and one 2-portIf 4-port ones don't exist then it's 3 5-port ones.Also, they are supposed to be in a junction boxThe box goes into the ceiling void, you'll probably need to enlarge the hole.TheJP said:Someone on another group has suggested taking the terminal block out of the fitting and putting it in the new fitting as it will fit. Although I’m not sure where the earth wires would go. I have added a picture of the new fitting.
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The 3 neutrals need some heat shrink over the broken insulation or some other step to repair them. You cannot use seperate wago's for the neutrals and lives. As Veteransaver says ... You can use wagos or terminal blocks, but you do need to know what you are doing in both cases!It's very easy to make this light work but screw up other lights on the curcuit. Electrical work is one of the few jobs that you can make it work fine, but not be safe.0
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591 junction box specifically made for replacing a ceiling rose. All the cables of the loop in loop out terminate in this and your light connects to it from the other end. Available many places I including Amazon.
Maintenance free so it can go up into the ceiling, you can just cut a slot big enough to push it up
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ501.html
(Or wagos in a wago box as suggested but this can be more cost effective if you don't have large boxes of 221s lying about)0 -
Veteransaver said:That's a standard rose fitting. You can just wire it in a junction box above the ceiling and then connect the two wires to the new fitting.
You can use wagos, but you do need to know what you are doing in both cases!Hi everyone, I am changing an old ceiling rose light fitting with a new modern light. The ceiling rose has about 10 wires which I assume is a loop fitting. I only have a live and a neutral connectors on the new fitting.I’ve been researching and wago connectors seem to be a good solution. Can anyone advise how many I need and which wires need to go in the same wago connector. Picture attached
Thanks as always
You could just use a ceiling rose if you have excess above.
It is important to connect the red that is suppling the fitting at moment to the same terminal0 -
TheJP said:Someone on another group has suggested taking the terminal block out of the fitting and putting it in the new fitting as it will fit. Although I’m not sure where the earth wires would go. I have added a picture of the new fitting.
Did the fitting not come with a earth wire in the packaging0
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