I don't understand how we are consuming so much energy

Gerry1

It would be very unusual and rather pointless to have underfloor heating powered by gas.  More likely that your neighbour's system is different or that they are confused.

Netexporter

Gerry1 said:

Netexporter said:

unlikely to be more than ten years old

It's 2017. The manufacture year in always at the front of the serial number, these days (well, the convention started last century)

It's shown in plain sight underneath 'Property of E.ON'.

In that particular case, but the date isn't explicitly shown on all meters.But it is always in the serial number, except for very old dial meters.

blue_hector

Was putting the kids to bed, but back now. Thank you so much for the initial responses.

I've now dug out a few things that might help form a better picture:

Gas meter readings (just from what I could find recorded in my phone, so it's a bit patchy, still gives us a chance to compute some stats):

Oct 2019 : 5297
Feb 2021 : 8202
Dec 2023 : 13001

So it seems like I am ~ 2000 kwh per annum on gas.

Electricity meter readings (again, patchy from my phone)

August 2022 45798
October 2023 57791
Dec 2023 58986

So over a year's period ~ 11000 kwh per year, and I do recall the first 2 years being similar.

So it seems like my consumption is the 'opposite' of what is expected in terms of gas and electric consumption! :-(

To answer an earlier user about whether my underfloor heating really is gas (as my neighbour claims and which I took his word for); I will have to have to request the manuals / installation guides for my house, but it's not looking good, is it based on the consumption?

Below is also a picture of my gas supply (in case it means anything).

And here is a picture of the things in my 'boiler cupboard' in case anyone can spy anything that would suggest I'm definitely getting everything via electricity vs gas.

Netexporter

blue_hector said:

Was putting the kids to bed, but back now. Thank you so much for the initial responses.

I've now dug out a few things that might help form a better picture:

Gas meter readings (just from what I could find recorded in my phone, so it's a bit patchy, still gives us a chance to compute some stats):

Oct 2019 : 5297
Feb 2021 : 8202
Dec 2023 : 13001

So it seems like I am ~ 2000 kwh per annum on gas.

Electricity meter readings (again, patchy from my phone)

August 2022 45798
October 2023 57791
Dec 2023 58986

So over a year's period ~ 11000 kwh per year, and I do recall the first 2 years being similar.

So it seems like my consumption is the 'opposite' of what is expected in terms of gas and electric consumption! :-(

To answer an earlier user about whether my underfloor heating really is gas (as my neighbour claims and which I took his word for); I will have to have to request the manuals / installation guides for my house, but it's not looking good, is it based on the consumption?

Below is also a picture of my gas supply (in case it means anything).

And here is a picture of the things in my 'boiler cupboard' in case anyone can spy anything that would suggest I'm definitely getting everything via electricity vs gas.

I notice another gas meter. I assume this is an apartment. I suspect there may be a mix up of meters, a not infrequent occurrence. Have you checked the meter serial numbers on the bills against the, meters you think are yours?

theoretica

blue_hector said:

Was putting the kids to bed, but back now. Thank you so much for the initial responses.

I've now dug out a few things that might help form a better picture:

Gas meter readings (just from what I could find recorded in my phone, so it's a bit patchy, still gives us a chance to compute some stats):

Oct 2019 : 5297
Feb 2021 : 8202
Dec 2023 : 13001

So it seems like I am ~ 2000 kwh per annum on gas.

Those readings are not in kWh - but in cubic metres.  You multiply by about 11 to get kWh - so you are nearer 22000kWh a year on gas - not as low as we thought from what you said.  So likely much of your heating is gas, but there may be some electric heating too.

QrizB

blue_hector said:

Gas meter readings (just from what I could find recorded in my phone, so it's a bit patchy, still gives us a chance to compute some stats):

• Oct 2019 : 5297
• Feb 2021 : 8202
• Dec 2023 : 13001

So it seems like I am ~ 2000 kwh per annum on gas.

Your gas meter is measuring cubic metres, not kWh. A cubic metre of gas is about 11.3kWh.

So you're using close to 22,000 kWh/yr of gas.

Gerry1 said:

It would be very unusual and rather pointless to have underfloor heating powered by gas.

Why do you say that? Wet UFH is well-established, and (as we all know) heating water using gas is far cheaper than electricity.

Plus, people like having warm floors!

blue_hector

theoretica said:

Those readings are not in kWh - but in cubic metres.  You multiply by about 11 to get kWh - so you are nearer 22000kWh a year on gas - not as low as we thought from what you said.  So likely much of your heating is gas, but there may be some electric heating too.

Gosh! Thank you for explaining that. Ugh... I really seem to know nothing. And then that's quite a high bill all round, both gas and electric!

On-the-coast

...but  the gas meter itself says 5297.6 M^3
which doesn't correspond at all to any of your "gas meter readings".... so are you reading the right meter?

Please log into your account and check what your energy company thinks you are using per year for Gas & Electric in KWh.

BTW we live in a bigish detached house... with Gas Heating.
we use about 7000 KWHrs of electricity per year...
.... we also charge an electric car which adds about 3500 KWh to that figure (but I've got good records so i mentally separate them).
We also use about 17KWH of gas (almost all of which is in the 6 months from Nov-April.  I'm currently £1250 in credit and expect to be about £600 in credit in April (which i then intend to mostly claim back).
I know we could save on those figure (both gas and electic) with some care and a little lower temperatures, but we can afford to be comfortable. 

Gerry1

Check that the Megaflo's two immersion heaters are switched off.  You could have a 'belt and braces' situation with large amounts of electricity being used needlessly, especially if its thermostat is set higher and/or its timer is set for longer hours that the gas boiler.

MultiFuelBurner

Gerry1 said:

It would be very unusual and rather pointless to have underfloor heating powered by gas.  More likely that your neighbour's system is different or that they are confused.

Wet underfloor heating is definitely a thing and not unusual at all.