No stopping fine but says no parking or waiting on the ticket

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Tah_11 said:

@Coupon-mad thanks for clarifying, I just checked that I need to appeal to the PALS first before making an appeal to parking company but the appeal time on the ticket is 28 days, which are basically up today (21 December).

@Le_Kirk yes I changed it because the penalty is because I stopped there for one minute. 

Sorry to resurrect an old thread.

Wondering how you got on with this ticket?

I have just got the exact same ticket. I pulled to the side after leaving the car park so I could set my Satnav before pulling out into the busy London traffic.

I was stopped for 90 seconds. Nobody left the car or entered the car.

Seems that this 'charge' is essesive in my opinion! 

Gr1pr

Trouble is,  your opinion is not a legal argument,  a standard PCN charge is £100 and been that figure for over 12 years,  with £85 ruled as not unconscionable 9 years ago at the Supreme Court,  but different location and circumstances 

But STOPPED is not PARKED

The private parking company definitely won't cancel the PCN 

But PALS might do, if the vehicle was still on their property 

Coupon-mad

Which parking firm?

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Coupon-mad said:

Which parking firm?

National Parking Control Ltd

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Gr1pr said:

Trouble is,  your opinion is not a legal argument,  a standard PCN charge is £100 and been that figure for over 12 years,  with £85 ruled as not unconscionable 9 years ago at the Supreme Court,  but different location and circumstances 

But STOPPED is not PARKED

The private parking company definitely won't cancel the PCN 

But PALS might do, if the vehicle was still on their property 

Yeah, I appreciate that. 

I will appeal to PALS. 

The annoying thing is I'd just left a car park that I'd paid for. The car park at St Thomas's is crazy busy so as we were leaving there were cars waiting to take my space. I literally had no chance to pause before heading out of the car park. 

Once past the car park barrier there is a ramp that heads up to the busy London roads, which I'm not familiar with. I pulled slightly to one side so as not to block anyone leaving the car park while I safely set up my SAT NAV before setting out.

Seems pretty unfair. If I have to pay it then so be it. It's not really about the money, it's about the fairness of it really. 

Gr1pr

The vast majority of private parking company charges are considered unfair,  but its currently an unregulated industry issuing around 14.6 million private PCNs per annum,  typically at the £100 a time tariff 

If you were in a paid parking spot within your time,  set up the sat nav etc there,  you paid for that time  ( never stop on access or exit roads etc,  too many cameras watching for any mistakes etc  ) cameras are watching 24/7

Whilst we do understand the story,  you have to treat parking companies as your sworn enemy,  looking for any errors,  weaknesses or reasons to give you a PCN,  to the point of parking a silver car on no silver car days,  they would even give you a PCN for a red car with silver trim 

Thorndorise

You should not pay, you were not parked and the 'charges' are what they are....don't sweat that, it won't change much and they are truly unlikely to change their position - all they want is a quick buck so wait it out. The PALS route is plan A, do that....see what comes of it. 

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Gr1pr said:

The vast majority of private parking company charges are considered unfair,  but its currently an unregulated industry issuing around 14.6 million private PCNs per annum,  typically at the £100 a time tariff 

If you were in a paid parking spot within your time,  set up the sat nav etc there,  you paid for that time  ( never stop on access or exit roads etc,  too many cameras watching for any mistakes etc  ) cameras are watching 24/7

Whilst we do understand the story,  you have to treat parking companies as your sworn enemy,  looking for any errors,  weaknesses or reasons to give you a PCN,  to the point of parking a silver car on no silver car days,  they would even give you a PCN for a red car with silver trim 

Not really what I was asking for, but I appreciate you taking the time to point out where I went wrong so that I can improve myself for next time. 

Gr1pr

Plan A in my earlier reply dealt with the issue you raised,  plus it clarified the situation of stopping versus parking,  plus the fact that the parking company is not going to cancel the PCN unless PALS tell them to do so, as the person who made this thread found out,  but hasn't yet told us,  or you , the outcome,  so we cannot tell you that outcome  !

My subsequent reply is in response to you feeling disgruntled about receiving the PCN plus the standard £100 charge on it, therefore  my replies are telling you what you have to do about the current PCN and how to avoid them in future,  otherwise you are doomed to receiving more PCNs in this countrywide situation 

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Gr1pr said:

Plan A in my earlier reply dealt with the issue you raised,  plus it clarified the situation of stopping versus parking,  plus the fact that the parking company is not going to cancel the PCN unless PALS tell them to do so, as the person who made this thread found out,  but hasn't yet told us,  or you , the outcome,  so we cannot tell you that outcome  !

My subsequent reply is in response to you feeling disgruntled about receiving the PCN plus the standard £100 charge on it, therefore  my replies are telling you what you have to do about the current PCN and how to avoid them in future,  otherwise you are doomed to receiving more PCNs in this countrywide situation 

Thank you again for the additional guidance.