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  • Netexporter
    Netexporter Posts: 1,932 Forumite
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    Usage isn't the same thing as correctness.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,287 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2023 at 5:42AM
    doodling said:
    Hi,

    I'm feeling in a pedantic mood so:
    Gerry1 said:
    bagand96 said:
    bagand96 said:
    Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.

    In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
    That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.
    I agree.

    But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website?   The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.
    One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible.  Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.
    No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' ! 
    The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead.  The socket is on the wall.
    Well it's not a socket in a bone to form a joint, it's not a USB socket, it's not a socket for a ratchet, it's not a socket to screw in a shower head, it's not a socket for a light bulb, it's not even a socket for a laptop power lead.  So what type of socket would you have me specify?
    I agree that socket may be used to describe part of a joint and that is usually clear from context - I very much doubt that someone doing hip replacements starts looking around the operating theatre for a somewhere to put the end of a bone, even without qualification of the word socket.

    Sockets used for ratchets are also usually very clear from context.  "I need a 16mm socket" would usually be quite clear in meaning and when it isn't the addition of the word "hex" before the dimension makes it adequately so for most.

    USB sockets accept USB plugs so presumably they are plug sockets?

    With respect to showers, socket is a very odd word to just to describe something where two parts are screwed together unless the screwing happens after the insertion (e.g as part of a locking mechanism) so I would discount your shower example.

    The word socket is rarely used for light bulb fittings (and, noting my comment on screwing would be inappropriate for ES and SES fittings anyway).

    Laptop power sockets accept a plug from a laptop power supply so presumably are also plug sockets?

    What I normally see used are:
    - Sockets
    - Wall sockets
    - Mains sockets
    - Power sockets
    - 240V sockets
    - BS1363 sockets (but generally amongst electricians).

    Plug socket is annoying because it is tautological.  See also wet water, verdant greenery, illuminating lights, hot flames, etc.
    In my experience usually referred to as a connector, because the plug is on the other end that connects to the mains power.

    Just like USB connectors go into USB sockets ( / ports).  If you Google 'USB plug' you'll get something quite different from the connector end of a cable.

    Showers and light bulbs, well I think we probably have a different vernacular if you disagree the word 'socket' is used.

    I sense you may lean towards the prescriptive view of language whereas I have more of a descriptive view (albeit after three decades of prescriptivism, so I have certainly been there too) and I'm still not convinced 'plug socket' is confusingly incorrect.  So unless using the term is unclear even in context, or gives rise to confusion - like mixing up units when talking about energy and power does - then I see no reason to change the language I and those around me have used all my life that has, so far, communicated my meaning perfectly well and appears to still do so.
    [Plus I still don't see how 'plug socket' is tautological because it is a specific type of socket into which one puts electrical plugs … 🤷]

    EDIT: Just to be clear, the above is all in good humour, I'm not going to argue :)  As long as language conveys the intended meaning then it's done its job, there is no One Right Way (especially considering British English is in the minority in the world!  And Standard British English is in the minority even within this island, most of us use a less formal vernacular for everyday communication).
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