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See - this proves the point, that one has already burst into flames!QrizB said:Here's the product from a rival website:
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Well it's not a socket in a bone to form a joint, it's not a USB socket, it's not a socket for a ratchet, it's not a socket to screw in a shower head, it's not a socket for a light bulb, it's not even a socket for a laptop power lead. So what type of socket would you have me specify?Gerry1 said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible. Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.bagand96 said:
I agree.Spoonie_Turtle said:
That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.bagand96 said:Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.
In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website? The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' !The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead. The socket is on the wall.0 -
Gerry1 said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible. Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.bagand96 said:
I agree.Spoonie_Turtle said:
That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.bagand96 said:Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.
In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website? The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' !The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead. The socket is on the wall.
The thing with three prongs on is a "plug top". I have no idea why, but that's what it's supposed to be called.
If it sticks, force it.
If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.0 -
Hi,
I'm feeling in a pedantic mood so:
I agree that socket may be used to describe part of a joint and that is usually clear from context - I very much doubt that someone doing hip replacements starts looking around the operating theatre for a somewhere to put the end of a bone, even without qualification of the word socket.Spoonie_Turtle said:
Well it's not a socket in a bone to form a joint, it's not a USB socket, it's not a socket for a ratchet, it's not a socket to screw in a shower head, it's not a socket for a light bulb, it's not even a socket for a laptop power lead. So what type of socket would you have me specify?Gerry1 said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible. Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.bagand96 said:
I agree.Spoonie_Turtle said:
That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.bagand96 said:Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.
In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website? The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' !The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead. The socket is on the wall.
Sockets used for ratchets are also usually very clear from context. "I need a 16mm socket" would usually be quite clear in meaning and when it isn't the addition of the word "hex" before the dimension makes it adequately so for most.
USB sockets accept USB plugs so presumably they are plug sockets?
With respect to showers, socket is a very odd word to just to describe something where two parts are screwed together unless the screwing happens after the insertion (e.g as part of a locking mechanism) so I would discount your shower example.
The word socket is rarely used for light bulb fittings (and, noting my comment on screwing would be inappropriate for ES and SES fittings anyway).
Laptop power sockets accept a plug from a laptop power supply so presumably are also plug sockets?
What I normally see used are:
- Sockets
- Wall sockets
- Mains sockets
- Power sockets
- 240V sockets
- BS1363 sockets (but generally amongst electricians).
Plug socket is annoying because it is tautological. See also wet water, verdant greenery, illuminating lights, hot flames, etc.0 -
'Plug Socket' is obviously a new innovation !doodling said:Hi,
I'm feeling in a pedantic mood so:Spoonie_Turtle said:
Well it's not a socket in a bone to form a joint, it's not a USB socket, it's not a socket for a ratchet, it's not a socket to screw in a shower head, it's not a socket for a light bulb, it's not even a socket for a laptop power lead. So what type of socket would you have me specify?Gerry1 said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible. Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.bagand96 said:
I agree.Spoonie_Turtle said:
That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.bagand96 said:Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.
In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website? The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' !The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead. The socket is on the wall.
Plug socket is annoying because it is tautological. See also wet water, verdant greenery, illuminating lights, hot flames, etc.
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Ectophile said:Gerry1 said:Spoonie_Turtle said:
One American expat in the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, plausible. Several people reviewing from the UK calling a plug socket an outlet, not plausible.bagand96 said:
I agree.Spoonie_Turtle said:
That said, I would caution against no-name generic Chinese electronics as there's no guarantee they'll be safe.bagand96 said:Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, I'm not sure how a 900W plug in heater would save on your electricity bill? Unless they are claiming it can heat more effectively than other electric heaters, which is likely a dubious claim.
In any event similar products available on eBay or Aliexpress for under £20, which makes this product's HALF PRICE £49.99 offer look even more dubious.
But is the product the OP asks about anything better than a no-name generic Chinese electronic, just with a fancy website? The ones I found on Ali/eBay looked exactly the same product.No such thing as a 'Plug Socket' !The plug is the thing with three prongs at the end of the appliance lead. The socket is on the wall.
The thing with three prongs on is a "plug top". I have no idea why, but that's what it's supposed to be called.Nope. A "plug top" is the bit of the unscrewed plug that doesn't contain the fuse holder and prongs. Presumably those who think that walls have "plug sockets" have resorted to saying this when they just mean a plug.Surprised they don't try to be consistent by referring to "Socket Plugs"...I blame estate agents and conveyancers. They often embroider lots of basic things to make you think you're getting more and better bangs for your buck. "17 Acacia Avenue Anytown has gas central heating" would never do, it would be "the dwelling in Anytown known as 17 Acacia Avenue has the benefit of gas-fired central heating".[/rant]
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Gerry1 said:Ectophile said:
The thing with three prongs on is a "plug top". I have no idea why, but that's what it's supposed to be called.Nope. A "plug top" is the bit of the unscrewed plug that doesn't contain the fuse holder and prongs.Electricians and electrical wholesalers will agree with Ectophile on this one.N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
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So where's the plug bottom?
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QrizB said:Gerry1 said:Ectophile said:
The thing with three prongs on is a "plug top". I have no idea why, but that's what it's supposed to be called.Nope. A "plug top" is the bit of the unscrewed plug that doesn't contain the fuse holder and prongs.Electricians and electrical wholesalers will agree with Ectophile on this one.I think not !"13A Plug Top": About 46,900 results"13A Plug": About 260,000 results0
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