if the kids chuck there dinner in the bin

Gingham_Ribbon

If they wanted to eat meat - then do what you please outside my home and dont cook it in my home

Fair enough, and like I said, my boys are vegetarian and have been since birth. BUT I would add that it's their home too so if they want to cook meat they'll be welcome to use their kitchen to do so, just like their dad does.

Penny-Pincher!!

frogga wrote: »

Hmmmmmm where shall I start?

Been thinking about posting on here for a couple of days but thought I should just keep my mouth shut as it might loose me some friends! Then I thought, well , we are all entitled to an opinion and we are all grown ups (well you lot are!) so for what it's worth , here's my tuppence :

I have been veggie since I was about 4 which was when I put 2 and 2 together and realised what it was we were all eating! At 4 I might not have been informed about nutririon , but I knew my own mind. I knew I did not want to eat a dead animal. So I didn't. It was my mothers job to make sure I got a balanced diet, and she did it brilliantly.

Mr Frog is a meat eater. My principles are MY PRINCIPLES, not his. The Tadpoles have never eaten meat and I'm quite shocked to read that some posters think it's wrong to bring up kids as veggie. I have never given my Tadpoles meat. They know what it is and how it got there. At present they are VERY adamant that they wouldn't touch the stuff. An opinion of there own forming as , as I said before Mr Frog eats meat and has no problem with it.

I have never given the Tadpoles alcohol, fags or heroin and hope that they will not do those vices either, but if they do , then it will be their choice. You bring you kids up teaching them what you think is right and wrong and then let them make an informed choice, surely?

As both the Tadpoles are now 11 and 12 I know what foods they do and don't like so I don't give them things they don't like ~ it's not rocket science! I know what I do and don't like and would not appriciate being constantly told to try it again ~ I don't like it!!! Both Tadploes are very unfussy and will try anything as long as it didn't once have a face, and if they don't like it , then they don't have to eat it!!

Both tadpoles went through 6 years at primary school without having a single day off sick. They are both very well informed on nutrition, in fact when "well meaning" adults quiz them on their diet , they always know alot more than the question asker!

Both Tadpoles can cook well, often making simple meals for the whole family.

I don't pile their plate high as they only have little stomachs and I trust them to know when they are full , they are full! They are not idiots! There isn't "junk food" on offer anyway so they don't eat that.

There are no bad manners in my house ~ they certanly would'nt chuck their food in the bin. On Christmas day tadpole 2 said " Thankyou for the nut roast Mum, but I'd rather not eat it thankyou" I was a bit dissapointed , but he didn't like it. He had a try , and he didn't like it, it's hardly the crime of the century!! When I tried it I didn't like it either!!!

I think that everyone who has contributed on here has a right to their opinion wether they have actual experience of feeding children or not. All I can say is, Children too have a right to an opinion as much as the next man. If only they were listened to a little bit more, they actually talk a hell of a lot of sense!

I bet that puts the cat among the pigeons!

I think your post is excellent Frogga and its brilliant to hear from someone who has children and are not meat eaters. I always find this subject very interesting as we are meat eaters and have wondered in the past how veggies actualy receive all their nutrients etc. I have to eat a high protein diet and think that I could go veggie if I chose to do so without many problems. I found GR menu plans very interesting and even tried a couple of recipes.

I think people whom are vegetarian are normally more clued up on protein and nutrition needs anyway. Your kids sound perfectly healthy...more than alot of other kids I know whom are fed meat.

I also think its great that you have a meat eater in the home and you are happy to accommodate that even though you dont eat meat yourself.

PP
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frogga

Thanks Penny and Gingham , and yes, if they want to cook it/eat it then as you said it's their home too! Not only does Mr Frog eat meat, I cook it for him! I have to "switch off" as my principles are very strong, however my love for Mr Frog is stronger!!

I completely agree about veggies being overweight too , for obvious reasons!! Even vegans can be very overweight if they eat too many nuts and bombay mix ( naming no names!:rotfl: )

frogga

That's funny pen, where did that other post go? I could have sworn i read one about veggies being chubby too ? Must be going Mad! :rotfl:

Penny-Pincher!!

Hi Frogga

I read the post incorrectly and thought someone had stated that Veggies are healthy eaters when I know alot of veggies whom are overweight/obese.

Its not what people eat but the quantity they eat whether meat eaters or veggies.

PP
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ceridwen

.....ooooh alright then - they could cook meat in my home - if I was out at the time and for long enough afterwards for the smell to have gone. I have a particularly strong sense of smell and notice what barely registers with other people in that respect. So - to me - bacon smells distinctly tempting (one of the few times I register meat as at all appealing) and mincemeat smells vile.

So its not some intolerance thing about "not darkening my door" - its a "please be considerate to me and my strong sense of smell thing" - I hate chemical smells and fagsmoke as well.

Thought Frogga talked a lot of sense - liked her way of putting things:T

serena

Aren't there some interesting things on this thread? I'd say it has given me food for thought but...;)

My three are now all teenagers, and have likes and dislikes, but are not particularly difficult fussy eaters. Although I sounded terribly strict in an earlier post, I'm not really dictatorial.I have always prepared our meals, mostly fresh ingredients, often home grown, and a wide variety. Including when they were being weaned. I've read recently that foods have to be offered and tried lots of times before a new taste is learned and liked, and lots of those tasted have to be when solid foods are first introduced. I think the key is to keep offering, and cultivating an open minded attitude to trying.

I also always put the food in serving bowls on the table - from when they were old enough to hold a spoon properly. They can take only a tiny amount, but they must have some of everything.

Often, we all plan meals, and for quite a while, on Thursday they took it in turns to cook the meal. I liked that a lot!!

I find a lot of my children's friends are really fussy and faddy, but won't let them be when they eat here. In fact, with one of them who appeared to live on baked potatoes and beans, I was quite deliberately introducing new tastes. She really liked Cajun chicken with watercress and orange salad...

Horace

I can remember when I was a child and staying with my aunt (she ran a childrens home) and was given some smoked mackerel sandwiches for my lunch. I refused to eat said sandwiches because I hated them and so my aunt thought to enter into a battle of wills with me - those blasted sandwiches were served up to me for breakfast, lunch and dinner for 3 days before she had to throw them out because they were going bad - what did I eat during those times - I scrumped sour unripe apples from her orchard:D .

My parents always taught me to sit at the table with them to have dinner - if I didn't sit at the table then I didn't have dinner - simple as really. I would never have dreamt of chucking my uneaten dinner in the bin - kids that do, shouldn't be given anything to eat until dinner time but if they want a drink, they can have water.

ceridwen

.....oh God - I can remember "battle of wills" things going on when I was a child. The awful phrase "we have to break her will" was heard more than once by me. I cant think why - as the only time that I can recall that anyone could have thought of me as a difficult child to bring up is when I was a baby in my cot.....at which time I apparently used to scream/cry/etc for hours at a stretch (one of my friends - mother of 2 - said to me that I was obviously doing that because I was bored stiff). That probably was the case. I learnt to read early - and as soon as I did I would think I must have been a very easy child to bring up - if I had enough to read then I didnt say very much at all (it wasnt worth it - I wasnt allowed an opinion on anything much at all!). :think: I'll just go off and have a think on whether theres anything I DONT have an opinion on now!:rotfl:

The whole concept of having a battle of wills with a child is appalling. I've had to develop willpower (and a lot of it) in my adult life - as otherwise I'd have to consider myself lucky to be living in a bedsit and paid Minimum Wage.

shelley_crow

I refused to eat meat when i was 6, i may as well have told my parents that i was from mars. I remember being sat down after sunday dinner and not being allowed to leave the table until i'd eaten this cold piece of lamb i had refused to eat. After 3 hours i was almost forced to eat it, it was very cold, very greasy and took no time at all to come back up. Needless to say they never did it again. I was a veggie until i was 19, then i really fancied a chicken sandwich so i don't know what went on there! My ds is 2.5 and has become very fussy about food. We make him food, if he doesn't eat it then there's no alternative, but i'd never make him eat. He's starting to settle down again and eat what he is given, we'll have to wait and see.