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WASPE "On Brink Of Defeat"

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  • jem16
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    Pollycat said:
    jem16 said:
    Pollycat said:
    TAndy_L said:
    Pollycat said:
    As someone who falls into the WASPI age group this campaign frustrates the hell out of me simply because it doesn't make sense.  They state that they had no notice of the changes and therefore could not make arrangements for their financial security.  Well we were notified in 1995 that the age would start increasing from 2010.  By my calculation that's 15 years, maybe some of these women should educate themselves and start reading or at least watch the news.  Also what financial insecurity is there?  You just carry on working that gives you the money to spend.  If you still finish work at 60 knowing you're not going to get a pension then more fool you!!

    These women no doubt want equality with men in all things except this because on this one they lose out.  Even though I would get a load of money if they win I really hope they don't as there are much better things the Government should be spending their money on, certainly not this.
    But were we actually notified?
    Did you receive a letter telling you that?
    I think that is WASPI's point.

    I certainly knew about it as it was widely discussed and in the company I worked for, HR ran sessions to educate women about this change.

    I think WASPI's campaign was poorly thought out (as per Silvertabby said:
    The WASPE hierarcy believe that it would be fair and equitable for women born before 6 April 1960 to receive their pensions backdated to age 60, but that their friends/sisters born on or after 6 April 1960 (just one day later) can jolly well wait until age 66.  

    I fall into the WASPI category but have not supported this organisation.
    I firmly believe that a man and woman born on the same day should receive their state pension on the same day.
    That is how I understand equality.

    If WASPI had concentrated on the later change (which was notified by letter) that - at incredibly short notice - increased pension age to 66, I would have supported it.
    I had known since 1995 that my state pension date would be April 2017 (aged 63 years and 6 months).
    The second change put that back to July 2018 (aged 64 years and 9 months).

    Now that was inadequate notice.

    In one of the court cases one of the WASPIs submitted the very letter informing her of the change, somewhat undermining their own case
    I know that.
    It made me laugh out loud.
    FTR:
    the letter was about the later (2010?) change, not the 1995 change because - as we all know - individual letters were not sent out about the 1995 change.

    I've been posting on WASPI threads on MSE for at least the last 8 years.


    It wasn’t a letter. It was a joint forecast of her occupational pension and her state pension as was common back then. She received it in 2006 and therefore was only about the 1995 Act and clearly told her that her state pension age was 65. This was still regarded as notification. 
    OK.

    I've always been OK with the notification I received about the pension age change.

    But then again, I tend to read everything and take notice.
    I have a background in occupational pensions as I know you have.
    I have no background in occupational pensions. I was a teacher.
  • Marcon
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    Instead of bickering pointlessly on this board, anyone who is interested enough could read the report: https://www.ombudsman.org.uk/complaints-womens-state-pension-age
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
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